Why School Shootings?

No you cannot.

Tel Aviv wold not be happy..

 

No you cannot.

Tel Aviv wold not be happy..

 

You're a self-confessed fan of assassination. That's precisely the mentality that one might expect to be an advocate of violence against the elected government.

Guns are made to kill. That's what they're for. They are promoted according to their killing efficiency. Weak-minded individuals believe that guns make them strong. Guns actually weaken them further by creating dependency. Gun owners are prone to going berserk and murdering large numbers of children. They do it because they have access to guns. They want to kill with them. If they simply wanted to kill then there are very simple ways of killing people by the hundreds, by the thousands. No, they want to kill with guns. They are addicted to guns. They are fascinated by them and love to fantasize over them. We see you, gun people, and we secretly laugh at you

 

Jonsa,
They will not be so obvious in changing the system of governance in the country.
They will accomplish through immigration and government dependency.
Just observe where the recent immigrants are coming from since the early nineteen hundreds up to recent immigration points of exit.
In the early nineteen hundreds, the immigrants from Europe arrived from nations that where and still are authoritarian and economically socialist.
The recent immigrants come from outright despotic lands where government is in complete control of their daily lives. The move to change the political structure of this country has been taking place incrementally for over one hundred years with no abatement so the die has already been set.
Think of this, why did DHS list anti-abortion, anti-federal reserve, anti-immigration, pro-constitution as well as anti-authoritarian political leanings as domestic terrorism? The mold is already here and now as the Progressives say, all they need is a critical mass moment.
I will stop with my wild and unfounded conspiracy theories now.

 

Guns are made to kill. That's what they're for. They are promoted according to their killing efficiency. Weak-minded individuals believe that guns make them strong. Guns actually weaken them further by creating dependency. Gun owners are prone to going berserk and murdering large numbers of children. They do it because they have access to guns. They want to kill with them. If they simply wanted to kill then there are very simple ways of killing people by the hundreds, by the thousands. No, they want to kill with guns. They are addicted to guns. They are fascinated by them and love to fantasize over them. We see you, gun people, and we secretly laugh at you [/QUOTE]

Very true. Much the same as those that would carry a knife, in a public place, a night out esp!

Why? If you were a women, can you imagine going out with a guy that walked around with a bowie knife, of an evening? Or took it down the pub? All it gives someone, at best, is a false sense of confidence, since, for one thing, any dummy can carry a knife, but when it comes to actually having to use it, fools have been know to freeze. Or drop it. And if you do that....you have every chance of it being used, on you. Moreover, people can often get into daft arguements, and get very angry over it, often made worse by being drunk. If you do that with someone, and it is fists, the chances are, you end up with a sore mouth, or they a black eye. Most of the time, it ends in under one min, and no one is killed. But if one or both had guns on their person, who is to say what they may have done, in the heat of the moment.

 

DHS...now if ever an org needed more light shone on them, it is they...

 

If killing is all that guns are good for, you'd better disarm the military too.

 

When I was young and alone in our home with my grandmother, I would sleep downstairs and she would sleep upstairs. If someone wanted to come in, all they had to do was raise the screen and step inside. It was a summer home and we were far from civilization, so in order to feel safe, I slept with my brother's 22 next to me.

What I'm trying to say is that everyone has different experiences in life and can only see things through their own lens. A person who lives in Britain is going to look at guns differently than someone living in Syria, who might need it for his survival. By the same token, a person living in certain areas in the U.S., will look at guns differently than someone living in another area. For instance, I live outside of NYC and small dogs have been killed by hawks, and large ones by cayotes. There are racoons that are rabid, and skunks that can ruin a person's clothes, or at least drive a dog batty. The police are hindered by laws to kill them, so gun control is not as easy as it seems.

Also a civil war in the U.S. is not as far fetched as it may seem. We are a large nation and there have been wars other than our Civil War. When my immigrant grand uncle found out the Germans in his town were going to chase them out, he ordered two thousand rifles. The Federal government was notified about the order, so nothing came of it in the end. Anyway even Obama said it's a very difficult issue, and will take a great deal of study and time. We do have laws, but the gun dealers know how to get around them.

 

Would seem a stretch, to be honest. You are too divided, most of those divisions being an illusion, but divided you remain. And too diverse. Both of those things = much harder to reach a consensus, and move forward.

It would take a catalysing event of epic proportions, that you could pin on Federal Gov, I dunno, something from the recent past, a revelation so large, that it would act as the glue to bind you all.

 

That is correct. Nor are they doing so. And if you can find the one off example of this ( as im sure you can. ) its wrong and shouldn't be stood for. If a child wants to silently pray to himself in school, I highly doubt that anyone will stop them.

 

What you are describing is the social failing of parents in our culture. Most people these days don't know how to raise their own children. Its a shame. But its still not the schools job to teach these things.

 

Have you been to Chicago? And what do you know of its violent crime status? This city has been resticting it citizens' right to self defense with a firearm for years.

The answer is to eliminate free will. Despots, totalitarians and others of this ilk have been trying to control this so they may keep their power over others.

My rights are not taking the lives or property of any other person. The confiscation of my rights will not stop the exercise of free will (a God given option). If new laws are the answer and need to be made, if restriction is the answer then deep six the present ones because these have proven ineffective. Just don't limit my rights and freedom due to the criminal act(s) of another.

The weapon you fear most is not in the hand but between the the port and starboard ear.

 

Oh, for god sake, stop bleating on about your freaking rights to own a house full of guns that would equip a small army unit.

Grow up, wise up, have the grace to remember those kids, shot dead, and who will not see Xmas, this year.

Stop being so paranoid, afraid, and downright selfish.

You don't even have proper checks and balances there, anyone can go into a gun store, and buy a gun.

You cannot buy a car without passing tests to show a level of being competent.

Whinge whinge...oooh..I want the right to drive with NO licence AND drunk, me, me,me, me, me......

 

What Jack is ignoring is the hidden hand in these various arranged events to "shock and awe" until enough people accept the disarmament of the American man.

In Iraq, one the first things the USA did was go house to house confiscating every man's means of self defense. Then the blood bath began.

In Syria, the administration thought that the Army was enough to defend the country. But the HATO/EU/USA/Saudi terrorists could walk into any village and rape, torture, slaughter and rob with no danger to themselves.

That is the same position that the disarmament gurus want to Americans to be in.

If you examine the hidden details of the escalating mass killings, you will find that they are part of a pressure process being applied to the Amerian People. We are under seige.

 

If it is only LOTS of guns that stop mass rapings and killings, even more, then maybe you need to look at your culture, if that is all that is holding it back.

 

Your trolling hyperbole is mildly amusing but barely, suggest you stop bouncing between your super ego and id and attempt to focus your shotgun approach.

A few folks will hold up the death of innocents to further their own agenda (don't waste a crisis) or to facetiously portray a "look at me I really care" persona. Seems evident in your Parent-Superior/Juvenile Angst like statement above, predominately flippant drivel, imo.

People who find fault in the method and not the actor miss the cause and can only see the effect. You cannot fix/repair/change that which you are to blind too. Those who pratice evil practice lawlessness. Laws will not change hearts but only make those convicted of violating its elemental constitution accountable.

You ignore much of my previous post to focus on your self serving response. I will not follow this pattern.

In your response you "X" out Christ in Christmas; your reason for choosing this expression? Why, maybe its a tell.

Are you a mental health professional; making a clinical diagnosis of paranoia and selfishness over the internet? A specialty of nationally socialized medicine?

Anyone may walk anywhere in America with impunity as long as they are not otherwise prohibited by law or good sense but anyone cannot lawfully purchase a firearm from a federal licensed firearms dealer (even those with storefronts).

To drive a motor vehicle (at least in America) is a priviledge and can be denied. By contrast any constitutional right (at least in America) is free to be exercised as an innate part of our citizenship without a government issued license.

What laws prohibiting murder would have been more effective? Or is murder and its victims not the issue for you but rather the method, is that the passionate focus of your heartfelt concern?

 

Okay, thanks for that nonsense.

Now.

To others..



You don't even have proper checks and balances there, anyone can go into a gun store, and buy a gun. (Should you, what would they be?)

You cannot buy a car without passing tests to show a level of being competent.(So why not to own guns?)

 

I realize it is your brave attempt at dismissiveness, nonetheless you're welcome, but admittedly it was written to share with others too. But if it makes you feel special to think it's all about you, then please enjoy.

You are misinformed. Areas with the greatest amount of government gun control also have the greatest amount of criminal violence and in many cases murder. What do you specifically know of the process of lawfully purchasing a firearm in the United States of America?

In America we can buy a motor vehicle without tests or a driver's license. Individuals and companies have the right to acquire personal and private/corporate property without government approval. Driving a motor vehicle, legally, on a public roadway does require a license, driving certain vehicles on your own property does not.

Shalom Jack Napier

 

Can you drive and insure it?

 

Yes, I am capable of each.

If your question included the American population; Yes, Americans can insure a motor vehicle without a test or license. No, an operator cannot legally pilot it without a valid license. Illegal aliens don't feel compelled to honor this law either.

In America driving an automobile is a privilege not a right.

 

My point is that without some measure of skill and being competent(the test), and moreover(the seatbelt), and (the speed limit), there would likely be more deaths, yes?

Yes.

So if you let any nut buy almost any number of guns, don't act shocked when it ends in the lives of kids being taken.

Why you cannot understand why that is sort of key, is a mystery.

 

There is more to conducting and interpolating a safe driving operation than what you call out above but I agree with the your point and conclusion.

First understand that a right is a much more valuable and an innate asset to a free citizen than privilege. What government grants as the source can be taken by the same government. What is an innate birthright is part of that individual's citizenship and human make up, it cannot be easily cleaved or separated from his humanity.

If your nut is the recent school shooter he didn't purchase any of the weapons (according to the press) found at the murder scenes. If you are referencing his mother I do not have any information to refute or support your claim as to her mental state at this time.

I recently saw a graph (believe the USA FBI was the reported source) depicting methods/weapons used to murder victims in the USA during 2010, more than twice as many people were murdered by their killer's hands and feet and ten times as many were murdered by knives and other weapons than were murdered by a rifle. Yet, given the information that has come out the anti-second amendment crowd chooses to target certain rifle esthetics and magazine capacity.

When passion drives actions and policies it will surely run the risk of being a messy, heavy handed and unbalanced conclusion, as most rush to judgments are.

Lastly I am against criminal acts limiting the opportunity of a free and peaceful citizen to exercise his/her rights. That is key for me.

 

Can anyone tell me, as a result of these recent shooting, what is actually being done?

Whether you agree with it or not, what legislation, if any, is being passed or proposed?

Or do you think this will just be swept under the carpet, and nothing will be addressed, at all?

 

Because if onw wants to commit suicide and take a lot of folk with you as well as guarantee a massive amount of publicity, go to the one area that has targets and is completely safe from any interference....

Schools are like haveing a law that forces Banks to remain open at night with the door and vault open and no security...The result would be very happy thieves. School gun free zones results in very happy crazies.

 

Everything to you is so simple, but sorry, our President does not have dictatorial powers, and we do not have mob rule. There is a lot of discussion before legislation is voted on.

There is one thing though that all the mass killers in the U.S. had in common, and the locals know it as well as the authorities who examine these cases:


Adam reportedly had an online page dedicated to satan and locals think this might have played a part in the tragic shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School that took the lives of 20 children and six adults.

http://hollywoodlife.com/2012/12/20/adam-lanza-worshipped-the-devil-says-former-classmate/