Why the Drug War Can't Be Won

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  1. Zosiasmom

    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    The money is so good that even federal officials are selling drugs and an altered state of being is so preferable that state and local LOEs and officials are being arrested for drugs.

    CORRUPT FEDERAL OFFICER PLEADS GUILTY TO SMUGGLING GUNS AND DRUG MONEY THROUGH THE AIRPORT

    http://www.justice.gov/usao/gan/press/2011/03-17b-11.html

    Former Officer and Wife Also Plead Guilty to Marriage Fraud Scheme

    ATLANTA, GA - DEVON SAMUELS, 45, and KEISHA JONES, 30, both of Stockbridge, Georgia, pleaded guilty today in federal district court. SAMUELS pleaded guilty to conspiring to launder drug money and attempting to smuggle guns onto an airplane. In a separate case, SAMUELS and JONES pleaded guilty to conspiring to commit marriage fraud.

    United States Attorney Sally Quillian Yates said, “Our citizens expect the federal government and its agents to protect the borders, and not use their badges as a personal gateways for getting cash. In this case, a federal customs officer smuggled guns and drug money for people he thought were international narcotics traffickers. At about the same time, he and his wife were running a corrupt marriage business on the side. Such officers can expect to see federal prison.”

    According to United States Attorney Yates, the charges and other information presented in court: SAMUELS, a U.S. Customs and Border Protection officer, was charged in connection with three undercover sting operations with smuggling drug money and guns through Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport.

    On November 3, 2010, an undercover officer, posing as a drug money launderer, gave SAMUELS approximately $25,000 in money represented to be from the sale of drugs. With the assistance of others, and by unlawfully using his badge to bypass security and avoid screening, SAMUELS smuggled the money through Atlanta's airport to Jamaica. Once in Jamaica, SAMUELS delivered the money to a Jamaican undercover police officer who was posing as an international drug trafficker.

    On November 19, 2010, SAMUELS accepted over $50,000 in purported drug money from another undercover officer. SAMUELS then traveled from Atlanta to Jamaica, where SAMUELS delivered the money to Jamaican undercover police officers. While in Atlanta's airport, SAMUELS again unlawfully used his badge to bypass security and avoid being screened.

    Finally, on November 30, 2010, SAMUELS accepted five firearms and approximately $20,000 in alleged drug money from an undercover police officer. SAMUELS smuggled the firearms and money into the airport by using his badge to bypass security. Once inside the airport, SAMUELS gave the firearms and money to a second undercover officer who had told SAMUELS that she was going to transport the firearms and money to Arizona for a meeting with members of a Mexican drug cartel.



    Ex-prosecutor gets prison deal in Vegas drug case

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/11/07/3086693/ex-prosecutor-gets-prison-deal.html

    LAS VEGAS -- A former prosecutor-turned-fugitive who once handled the high-profile Las Vegas drug cases of celebrities Paris Hilton and Bruno Mars was sentenced Wednesday to a reduced term of 12 to 30 months in state prison term following his return from Mexico.

    David Schubert, 49, fled there to avoid jail after pleading guilty in a crack cocaine possession case. In court Wednesday, he didn't apologize as he stood for sentencing before Clark County District Court Judge Carolyn Ellsworth, defense attorney Louis Schneider said.

    "He feels as if he shouldn't have even been there," Schneider said later.

    Instead, Schubert told the judge he felt he'd been treated exceptionally harshly for his March 2011 arrest with $40 in rock cocaine and an unregistered handgun in his car.

    Ellsworth revoked a sentence that she imposed in February that would have Schubert serve nine months in county jail as a requirement of probation. But she also cut his prison term from a possible 16 to 40 months, gave Schubert 40 days credit for time served and ordered him enrolled in a prison substance abuse program.

    Schneider said Schubert was grateful for the reduced sentence and opportunity for treatment and said he hopes to resume practicing law in the future. Schubert's law license was suspended by the state Supreme Court just before he fled to Mexico on Sept. 21. He was arrested at the border Sept. 30 while re-entering the U.S. after spending time in the Mexican coastal resort towns of Rosarito Beach and Ensenada.

    Thom Gover, the deputy Nevada state attorney general who prosecuted the case, called Schubert's revised sentence appropriate.

    "If the interest of justice and rehabilitation is the goal, one to 2 1/2 years is enough," Gover said.

    The sentence was first reported Wednesday by the Las Vegas Review-Journal ( http://bit.ly/VEiAxh).

    Schubert resigned from the Clark County district attorney's office after his March 2011 arrest and pleaded guilty in September 2011 to felony unlawful possession of a controlled substance. Felony conspiracy, weapon and drug use charges were dropped under a plea deal that avoided trial.

    Schubert expected mandatory probation and a chance to wipe the felony conviction from his record. But Ellsworth rejected the plea deal in February, berating Schubert as "a disgrace to his oath as a prosecutor and a lawyer" and declaring that Schubert wouldn't get special treatment.
     
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    The XL Well-Known Member

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    The war on drugs might be the most vile, evil thing in this country's history outside of slavery. It's racist, it's anti freedom, it props up violent gangs, and it puts innocents behind bars while funding a bunch of special interests. Disgusting.
     
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    What I love is the Drug War supporters like SaintMike, who say things like "history doesn't lie."

    They're right, it doesn't. You know what History taught us? Prohibition don't work, playas.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    From George Will at NYP:


     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Another good piece

     
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    The XL Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.

    No real man of any righteous God could support one of the most evil things in history, the war on drugs.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    People addicted to drugs are sick, they deserve healing, not cruelty. Being placed in a correctional facility filled with pedophiles, rapists, murderers, etc is not just for a non-violent offense.
     
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    And yet, the filth call it inhumane to hang these types of swine, while people fighting for their own country in the middle east are tortured. world is a sick place.
     
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    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    Since when was our "justice system" actually just?
     
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    You could make the same argument about child porn - some drugs have no place in America. Weed is fine, but the ultra-libertarians who think that a crack or heroin stand should be allowed outside a middle school under "the 1st Amendment" - that's just nuts.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Another reason why the drug war cannot be won using the punitive approach is similar to why teenage abstinence is difficult to maintain despite the fears of pregnancy or disease...it feels good enough to take the risk.

    People like doing drugs. It feels better to people than not doing drugs. I'd ask the social drinkers who are pro-drug prohibition why they drink but they will refuse to answer, most-likely.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Or alcohol....
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Well I'd support banning alcohol before I'd support legalizing PCP and meth.

    Plus alcohol is not extremely addictive and does not cause violent or psychotic behavior in most of its users. Some people do become deadly addicted, but not the average drinker. I've found smoking much more addictive than drinking.
     
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    The same (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bags that prosecute non violent drug use go home, have a smoke, and wash it down with some alcohol. It infuriates me to no end.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Has banning PCP and Meth stopped people from using it? Yes or no. Be honest, yes or no?

    Not true, go to SAHMSA.gov. It is the most lethal drug in America and more people commit violent crimes on alcohol than any other drug due to its depressant characteristics. The human brain for those with a particular DNA also metabolizes alcohol differently and some people's reactions to the drug is quite intense.
     
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    Many people in prison are there for things they did while on drugs such as rape, murder, theft etc not just simple possession.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Really? Cite me some specifics. This is what I do daily, so please enlighten me....
     
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    [​IMG]

    You're kidding, right?
     
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    I can win the drug war. Give me all of your drugs and I will dispose of them.
     
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    Are you actually denying this?

    I give up, your right, everyone in prison committed their crimes while they were sober lol.

    YOU WIN
     
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    It doesn't even necessarily require legalization for the hard stuff. You can decriminalize all drugs and see a massive reduction in drug-related crimes.

    It's worked really well for Portugal.
     
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    I've got a better idea. People should just stop taking drugs.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    So you don't have specifics? Do you want the specifics on domestic violence and alcohol?

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/10.1111/%28ISSN%291530-0277

    http://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/binge-drinking.htm

    http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/search/node/domestic%20violence
     
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    And drinking, right? Because alcohol is a depressant that can kill people when they withdraw from it (delerium tremens).
     
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    I've got an even better idea.

    Mind your own (*)(*)(*)(*)ing business.
     

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