Why was the 2009 pandemic not taken ANYWHERE NEAR as seriously as COVID-19?

How does your reversion confront the current crisis and Trump's well-documented attempts to mischaracterize, minimize, and falsify that now-validated threat?

 

It doesn't. Does it HAVE to?

 

If you would rather duck the current crisis, you are free to reminisce, of course.

 

How is posting a thread about a previous pandemic "DUCKING" this one?

 

What are your recommendations for dealing with the 2009 H1N1 virus?

 

You can't possibly be that dense. It is not how we deal with the 2009 H1N1 virus. It is the democrats inconsistent criticism.

 

Sure they can!

Well to be fair, the Democrats didnt criticise Obama back then in the exact same way that Republicans aren't going to criticise Trump now. Perhaps it could be said that the left wing media has demonstrated inconsistent criticism. What inconsistencies are you seeing, either from Democrats or elsewhere?

 

I don't remember any criticism from either side. Certainly, nothing like this. It is wall to wall coverage. The reporters go into the press conferences with "gotcha" in mind.

 

So the difference then is that in 09, the party out of power didn't criticise and neither did the media. Why? Well it's certainly clear that there is no equivalence between 09 and now - it wasn't out of control in 09, but it is now. Criticism is entirely justified - it's just that it can't be directed to one individual, but this is what is happening. People seem to think - or else are pretending - that Trump was independently responsible for preparing the country in anticipation of a pandemic and think that he is now in independent control over the response. If that was the case, there would be no more America.

 

Because the Media didn't want to criticize the Obama/Biden administration.

 

Or, this is so much worse. I agree the media has gone over the top being critical of the president, but they are not exaggerating the issue. This is so much worse, as I have pointed out with documented evidence, several times, now.

 

Yes, but was there much TO criticise? Anyway, I'm not even talking about the media's response, or Democrat's response, I'm talking about why it wasn't taken anywhere near as seriously by the health authorities, even to the point where not even hand washing was promoted!

 

My point is that not even hand washing was promoted!

 

Well promoting hand washing would certainly have been a positive move and I find it odd that it wasn't promoted. Surely a virus doesn't have to be as serious as coronavirus in order to promote hand washing!

 

I don't find it odd that you would mindlessly parrot that falsehood!
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2009/05/nearly_60_pc_washing_hands_mor.html
Swine Flu Makes Handwashing Soar: Poll
May 1, 200912:38 PM ET
FRANK JAMES

The swine flu has apparently succeeded where millions of parents have failed: it has caused Americans to significantly increase the amount of time they spend washing and sanitizing their hands.

That's just one take-away from a new poll done by Harvard University's School of Public Health which found that nearly 60 percent of respondents or members of their households were washing their hands more or increasing their use of sanitizer.

Meanwhile, 25 percent of respondents said they were avoiding public places like public transportation (aka the Biden Solution) to reduce their potential exposure to the swine flu virus.

 

Okay, this is a news article talking about the increase in hand washing. Now find public health advisories from the Federal and state governments. I'm guessing that you won't be able to.

 

"Why was the 2009 pandemic not taken ANYWHERE NEAR as seriously as COVID-19?"

so now we see why this virus is being taken more seriously, more contagious, more dying in shorter time span stressing medical system

 

Obama listened to the experts and let them handle it as Trump should of done

"Obama: Sneeze into Your Sleeve, Not Your Hands"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-sneeze-into-your-sleeve-not-your-hands/

"Every American has a role to play in responding to the H1N1 flu virus, President Obama said today. During an afternoon statement in the Rose Garden of the White House, Mr. Obama had a message for people to prevent the spread of the disease: Wash your hands frequently, and cover your sneezes with your sleeve, not your hands."

""Our plans and decisions are based on the best scientific information available, and as the situation changes, we will continue to update the public," Mr. Obama said."

 

Alright, well there's at least something which was promoted. Nothing about social distancing or hand washing?

 

"Wash your hands frequently"

was right in his quote to the public

https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/cdcresponse.htm

"As the outbreak spread, CDC began receiving reports of school closures and implementation of community-level social distancing measures meant to slow the spread of disease. School administrators and public health officials were following their pandemic plans and doing everything they could to slow the spread of illness. (Social distancing measures are meant to increase distance between people. Measures include staying home when ill unless to seek medical care, avoiding large gatherings, telecommuting, and implementing school closures)."

 

So if Obama hadn't said this, then nobody would've heard it? I find it hard to believe that it was either Obama or nothing!

Well this is from a report in the following year, with this particular paragraph relating specifically to schools and how they implemented "community-level social distancing measures." During the actual pandemic, did you hear/read constant hand washing and social distancing being promoted?

 

You have absolutely lost that argument.

FreshAir showed you (exactly) how you were WRONG.

Both hand washing and Social Distancing were promoted in 2009.

In light of this evidence, why would you keep posting contrary information?

 

In which post did I claim that preventative measures were NOT promoted? I was just saying that I can't recall any myself and seeing if anyone else can recall. Not to mention that I'm in Australia, not the US.

Only by Obama? I just find it hard to believe that it was either Obama or nothing!

 

it was repeated by the cdc and others, I was only searching for Obama

this is a doc sent to schools via the cdc to teach children and parents even

https://jfs.ohio.gov/cdc/docs/H1N1.pdf

 

now some conservative were not happy about the hand washing message and attacked Obama for it

https://www.newsweek.com/hand-washing-no-defense-against-swine-flu-79629