Why would anyone trust Trump?

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  1. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    Megyn Kelly was exposed as just another Right-wing shill lobbing Trump softball questions.

    So much for her dream of being the "next Barbara Walters".

    The next Barbara Walters? :roflol:

    Pathetic and delusional.
     
  2. REPUBLICRAT

    REPUBLICRAT Well-Known Member

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    I don't think really think we should revisit the 2 term limit, but I cannot lie, I do believe our country would easily be better off with Obama than with either Hillary or Trump. For that matter, I think Obama's a better President than anyone that ran in 2016 would be. Still not all that big a fan of Obama at all. that's how bad our choices were imo in 2016.
     
  3. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's your opinion and I'll respect your opinion but Obama has done a whole lot of damage to America especially when it comes foreign policies and our national security including being the worse Commander in Chief in America's history.

    As for being POTUS, no leadership capabilities, always blaming others for his failures and taking credit for others successes. Obama's is a narcissist who really doesn't like America and looks upon himself as being an internationalist. Obama has been spending 7 1/2 years trying to change America they way he believes America should be like.

    America, and the world today are more dangerous today than it was in January of 2009. Just look at the damage Obama has inflicted upon our military services. America hasn't been so divided today since 1861.

    If there's just one Hollywood movie or television program that would describe the Obama's it would be the "Beverly Hillbillies."
     
  4. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump is accomplished in his field.
    Can you name one accomplishment of Hillary.

    Examples:
    1) Gov Bill appointed her to improve education in Arkansas. Yup!
    2) HillaryCare, remember losing you long time doc because he was not part of your health care network?
    More profits for Health Care industry, just like ObamaCare.
    3) Senator Hillary. So What?
    4) Secretary of State Hillary. War monger and inept protecting Benghazi. No Kissinger, that's for sure.

    Similar to Obama, Holder & Lynch "we" are suppose honor a resume void of accomplishments
    and even littered with failure.
    Not Moi, no more.​

    YOU want scandal? Remember Whitewater? Was there murder too?

    In the Real World, the choice is Trump or Hillary.
    I chose the accomplished over the unaccomplished considering the scandal thing is equal between them.


    Moi :oldman:
    Voted for Obama in '08
    and he lied to Moi


    r > g


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    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
     
  5. Herkdriver

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    I'm a one issue voter...
    Fortunately our Republican controlled Senate is finally doing something they were elected to do. Namely, oppose President Obama.
    They have united with a partisan blockade, and Obama's nominee for Supreme Court Justice, Judge Merrick Garland will likely be the first high court nominee in American history to be denied a hearing and a floor vote.

    Hopefully the Supreme Court vacancy will remain in place through the rest of the year, pushing the issue until 2017, at which point the new president and the next Senate will work on filling it.

    Donald Trump is more likely to nominate a conservative Supreme Court Justice to replace Justice Scalia, than Hillary Clinton.

    There is nothing that is going to deter me from voting for him for that reason, and that reason alone.
     
  6. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Hilary comes from a wealthy family. Her accomplishments (LOL) come from her marriage to a popular president. How is she going to understand the plight of the middle class

    I actually TRUST Hilary

    I trust she wants to ban guns

    put far left lesbians on the supreme court

    jack up my taxes.

    I don't know if Trump will be good or suck as president but I know damn well Hilary will be awful for anyone who supports traditional masculine values and a society that is not centered around public teat sucklers and male hating lesbians and feminists
     
  7. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    The Trump Wall Will Save Hundreds of Lives and Protect Women From Gang-Rape:

    Women’s undergarments hang in a ‘rape tree’ near the US border.
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    http://www.latina.com/lifestyle/news-politics/rape-trees-found-along-southern-us-border

    And it’s not just rape.
    Hundreds of illegals never make it to the United States.
    They die in the desert or in the Rio Grande trying to get into America.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21029783

    Donald Trump wants to help these people and Americans.

    With so many people dying every year trying to cross the US southern border a border wall will save lives. Many illegals pay drug cartels to cross into America. Many of them are left in the desert to die. Trump’s great wall will protect them.

    Trump’s border wall will not only prevent illegal migration but it will cut money to the drug cartels. The wall will also prevent more drugs from crossing into the US and therefore would prevent drug overdoses. The wall will save lives.

    A Trump wall will help families wanting to move to the United States by giving them an opportunity to come over legally and safely. Many leftists and #NeverTrumpers don’t want to talk about this but the Trump wall is about humanity not politics.

    A Trump wall will save lives.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/05/trump-wall-will-save-hundreds-lives-protect-women-gang-rape/
     
  8. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Another whopper from Trump, this time that David Cameron invited him to visit. He did not.

    Here is what Trump claimed on Morning Joe:
    The British must think he's a complete fool.
     
  9. CourtJester

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    You keep saying Trump is not part of the establishment when what you actually mean is he is not part of the Political establishment although his boasts about how much he has given to politicians might make even that claim dubious.
     
  10. CourtJester

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    How high is the wall going to be and how far underground.
     
  11. Natty Bumpo

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    Would the wheeler dealer supreme screw the American taxpayer and try to hide it?

    You can believe everything that Casino Boy tells you - and don't let those thousands of thousands of cheering folks in New Jersey shake your credulity!

     
  12. Zorro

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    When the choice is Hillary?

    Even MSNBC on hearing Crooked Hillary's response to IG report, noted: ‘That was mind-boggling’. She is an unconvincing congenital liar.

    “Does she not have anyone around her that can tell her…’You know you’ve got to really stop lying about this’ because everything she said in there is just a lie.”

    No. She surrounds herself with low talent supplicants that would never impose reality on her, that will be up to the Electorate if not the Criminal Justice System.

    “‘It was allowed by the State Department…’ No, it was not allowed by the State Department. ‘

    Everybody knew in the State Department that we were doing it…’ No! They said they didn’t know but if we did know we wouldn’t allow her to do it. And she goes on and on.”

    It's a fairly brutal take down of Crooked Hillary's latest batch of lies and no one on the MSNBC panel jumps in to bail Crooked Hillary out.

    [video=youtube;Zrz_s-5Vc2k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrz_s-5Vc2k&feature=youtu.be[/video]
     
  13. raytri

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    So you dont like Hillary because you think she lies too much, so instead you support a guy who lies WAY more often, and tells way bigger whoppers.

    I call bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Obviously, Hillary's truthfulness cant be your real objection. So what is it?
     
  14. Zorro

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    Hillary isn't a liar!

    Oh, she is? Well you can't hold that against her!

    Of course I can, and I do. Words Americans most associate with Crooked Hillary are: liar, not-trustworthy and scandals.

    She did that. No one else.

    MSNBC:

    [video=youtube;J63xCJqV8jU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J63xCJqV8jU&feature=youtu.be[/video]

    The poll also found that only 19 percent of voters believe Clinton is ‘honest and straightforward’.

    “19 percent of voters say they consider Hillary Clinton honest and straightforward,” noted MSNBC anchor Steve Kornacki. “Now look, the number is not exactly great for Donald Trump, 35 percent. Normally you’d say that’s a pretty bad number for a politician, but it’s almost twice the number Hillary Clinton faces right now … This has been a huge obstacle for her in this campaign, the honest and trustworthy question.”

    Sixty-four percent of registered voters do not see Hillary as honest and trustworthy.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/20/u...ion=click&contentCollection=meter-links-click
     
  15. tomander7020

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    The reason that some people trust Trump is very simple: Psychopaths have a superficial charm and a grandiose notion of self-worth that appeal to many people. They are very skilled at manipulating the opinions of others. There is a popular misconception that psychopaths are all mass murderers, but the truth is that most of them are nothing of the sort. They are people who have a brain defect that does not enable them to feel empathy with others or to have genuine emotional connections. You might note that in addition to being very glib, Trump has no long-term connections. Even his marriages tend to be short lived.

    Most people do not recognize psychopathic traits and therefore easily fall victim to a psychopath's superficial charm. Psychopaths are commonly surrounded by large numbers of admirers.
     
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    It is a paradox, isn't it? I find it amusing that they don't see the irony and hypocrisy of this.
     
  17. raytri

    raytri Well-Known Member

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    Wqy to dodge my point: that if you dislike lying so much, it makes no sense to support Trump, who is a WAY bigger and more frequent liar.

    Since you are supporting Trump, clearly lying by a candidate doesn't really bother you.

    So I repeat the question: What is your real objection to Hillary, since it clearly ISN'T her level of truthfulness?

    - - - Updated - - -

    I find it amusing that they dont think OTHER people can see their obvious hypocrisy.
     
  18. Zorro

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    Other than she is a liar, a crook, a warmonger and a nose-picker?
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    Her treatment of women. Her "sluts and nuts" attacks on her husband's victims. Her giggling over the bloody underwear of the 12 year old rape victim. Laughing at the murder of Gaddafi when he was sodomized with a knife. Her corruption. Her Lies. Her phony charity where she laundered bribes and evaded taxes, but the nose-picking, I guess it fits.
     
  19. Illusive Man

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    Let us face the reality of the social processes in America right now. Hell, not just in America, but across the globe.

    Americans are not looking for a leader who is pragmatic, who understands politics, who is 'good' of character, or who is seen as a visionary.
    Americans have been taught to venerate renegades, or rebels, since they were children. Who did not play with their toys, pretending one group was the cops and the other side was the criminals? People want the winner. They want the renegade, not the quiet professional. They want the 'winner', not the intellectual. They want the rebel, not the 'good' man.

    Is it foolish? Of course.
    However, it is not about qualification. It is about being fed up with every shred of politics in the last century, so they are willing to take any option not from the established political class.

    What is the right solution then? Well, let us start here:

    Are you angry at the political establishment of your country? Good. That is the only thing that keeps them in check.
    What Americans are discovering right now is that they have given their government so much power that even though the populace has HATED legislators and bureaucrats, they have not been able to change them. The people are supposed to keep the government in check, except when the government becomes so powerful that they can ignore you. They know that opinions are like the wind - they will blow to the east one day, and to the west the next. They can change your opinion with airtime and column inches. Which Television Network do you watch? Do you even know who owns it? It is the same class of people that tell you to live your life a certain way: go get a degree; get a nice, comfy corporate job; get married; have kids; retire to somewhere warm; [and last of all] die.

    Donald Trump is a member of that very class. The same men and women who were never even elected, but sit behind closed doors with your national and state legislators and direct which bills will be written next. Don't believe it? Just watch Donald Trump's net worth grow exponentially if he is elected. Do you think it will be a coincidence? Hardly. He will make money off of this catastrophe, and that is his end goal.

    Each nation needs to start realizing its government does not have their best interests at heart any longer. There is too much corruption, too much greed, too much self-indulgence. Governments need to be sanitized and brought under the control of the people. You should be looking for men and women of character, men and women who root out corruption, men and women who want the real power to be with the people. In America, the two-party system will have to disintegrate before this will ever happen. When? That is up to you, America.
     
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    You left out the part where the Clintons are responsible for imprisoning a generation of young black men.
     
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    ^^^^^^^^^^Blindness defined^^^^^^^^^^^
    "I won't insult you by assuming that you believe a word you just posted"
     
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    Hope! Change! Bring on the Trumphones!

    Ah, the glorious new future awaits.
     
  23. raytri

    raytri Well-Known Member

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    I notice you don't manage to explain how someone who claims they oppose Hillary because she lies, decides to back the biggest liar in the race instead.
     
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    Anyone with a bit of honesty and common sense should realize the biggest liar in the race by far is Hillary.

    I like what Trump has created for a SCOTUS appointment list, I like his advocacy for Veterans, and I like his thinking for keeping us safe and improving the economy.
     
  25. raytri

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    This is objectively wrong. Trump tells way more lies, and many of his lies are yuuuugge! -- way bigger than anything Hillary has done.

    Which is fine, but then don't pretend you care about how much a candidate lies.

    By the way, how can you trust anything Trump says, given his penchant for lying, and his constantly changing his positions -- sometimes going back and forth multiple times?

    First he was going to build a wall -- now it's "just a suggestion."

    Then there's the stuff that is just plain contradictory. He is going to revive coal and gut the EPA, but he's all about the clean air and water!

    So I don't really understand how you have any idea what Trump stands for, or why you would think his claims are anything other than vague pie-in-the-sky nonsense.

    But that's just me. If you want to buy the snake oil, have at it. Just don't pretend you care about a candidate's truthfulness.
     

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