Why would you Oppose a wall on our Border? Lets find out.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Condor060, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. Renee

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    Oh so you’re giving Bush credit for rescuing the economy that he left bleeding and heading for a depression..lol
     
  2. doombug

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    Well, obama did continue his policies. Bush continued the Clinton policies that led to the financial meltdown so he is not blameless.
     
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  3. Renee

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    Useless? Being able to see doctors is useless? Being able to get insurance with pre-existing conditions is useless? Keeping your child on your plan till s;he is 25 is useless? What happened to the fantastic health care plan that Trump promised? You had all branches of government for two years and you came up with absolutely nothing. And I don’t think most Americans agree with you because they don’t want to give up their health insurance
     
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    Somebody doesn't know that there are millions...like over 20M that didn't get healthcare after obamacare kicked in, so it really didn't do squat.

    Sure, go see a doctor. After you pay your $5K in premiums and $10K deductible, a $15K colonoscopy sounds lovely.
     
  5. doombug

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    High deductibles and sky rocketing premiums....err, yeah useless.
     
  6. doombug

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    He started the recovery if that is what you want to call it. Then obama made sure it slowed to a crawl.
     
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    So this means that nothing should be done about other parts of the border? Surely you can't be serious.
     
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    Cost is irrelevant in terms of how difficult they are to breach. But the relevant detail here is that the wall is 30 foot tall, which is nothing compared to the height of any current barriers.
     
  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    My own feeling is that Trump is preparing us for a coup. He knows that he really has no other choice, Mueller has the goods on him and even his puppy dog Senate will be unable to ignore flat out Treason. He will be in prison by the end of the year, if not sooner
    So within a month or so I expect there to be a Reichstag Fire, a totally staged "terrorist incident" that Trump will use to declare Martial Law and subsequently become President-For-Life
     
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    Surely you can't be serious.
     
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  11. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    As a heart attack.

    Trump has painted himself into prison. He knows what he did and he also knows he seriously underestimated the ability of the US Government to find that out. This is not just defrauding some bankruptcies on casinos or scamming some beefsteak; this is espionage and election fraud and he will be impeached and incarcerated for a long time. What does he have to lose?
     
  12. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    It's better than NO Healthcare, which is what you and the Republicans obviously want since you have proposed NO alternative to Obamacare in the several years it has existed..

    Oh wait, I'm sorry, the redoubtable Dr Rand has proposed one plan. He wants to revoke Reagan's 1986 legislation that made hospitals have to give the indigent care even if they can't pay. He really does want the corpses to be piling up outside of the locked ER doors at hospitals.

    So far that is the ONLY Republican plan I've seen.
     
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  13. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    And to return to the topic I oppose our building what even many of its proponents say will be a largely ineffective symbol of our bigotry and hostility to and toward all other countries. It would be much cheaper and more effective to simply replace the torch on the Statue of Liberty with an upraised middle finger directed at the rest of the world
     
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    to oppose the wall is to oppose a colonoscopy...
     
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    "I am Major General Craig Furini.

    As the new Commander of Australia’s Operation Sovereign Borders, I have a simple message to anyone considering illegal travel to Australia by boat.

    Under my command, AUSTRALIA'S BORDERS WILL STAY CLOSED TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

    If you attempt an illegal boat journey to Australia, you will be stopped and returned to your country of departure or your home country.

    Australia is serious about protecting its borders and preventing deaths at sea. This will not change.

    Australia’s borders are monitored, patrolled and protected every day of the year, and our border protection defences are stronger than ever."

    That's the correct viewpoint and idea.
     
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    Silly. With the advent of thousand dollar drones that can carry payloads, a wall is rendered completely obsolete as far as drugs are concerned. And it's like you completely forgot that drug runners can easily buy boats. All a wall does is re-route traffic.

    Silly thread.
     
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    Recent transcript of Drug Cartel Meeting:

    "Gosh, Juan, I see the Americans are going to build a wall ... guess we'll have to give up our $100 million dollar a year drug selling operation in the US ...


    WTF. It's insane to think that a wall will do anything but re-direct traffic when that kind of money is involved.
     
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    Health insurance is NOT healthcare. Dims think health insurance plans are like gym memberships....come and go as you please. It's insane.

    I agree with Rand. Reagan screwed up because that legislation created a vacuum from Mexico and the Dims went back on their promise to seal the border. It's all the damn dims fault.
     
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    “Largest single group of migrants ever tunnels under border wall: CBP

    The largest single group (376) of asylum seekers ever to cross into the U.S. tunneled beneath the border wallnear San Luis, Arizona, on Monday, voluntarily turning themselves into Customs and Border Protection, according to the agency.

    Migrants can be seen marching toward Border Patrol agents by the hundreds, according to video obtained by ABC News. Smugglers dug a series of seven holes, only a few feet long beneath the steel border fence, with hundreds going beneath the wall and a smaller number clambering over it, according to CBP.”
    https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/large...tunnels-border-wall-arizona/story?id=60462672


    Tell me again how a wall will prevent illegals from getting into the US?
     
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    10% to 5% or under unemployment.
     
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    Bush wasn't smart enough to see the housing bubble and the emanent crash? I agree.
     
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    Odd, there is no deductible for colonoscopy for most. It is covered 100% by most insurance plans these days. If the criteria of over 50 and 1/yr is met.
     
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    You keep posting the same nonsense to a post multiple times? Why?
     
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    There were some posters here that thought Obama was going to do something similar before tRUMP's inauguration. For the same reason of President for life.

    That was also very very silly.
     
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    Good sound policy.
    Also, throw criminal employers in jail for hiring illegal immigrants and giving them a reason to come here in the 1st place.
     

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