WikiLeaks cables show that it was all about the oil

It's the oil stupid!

McClatchy Newspapers: WikiLeaks cables show that it was all about the oil

 

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I dont think that anyone thinks it wasn't about the oil.

It's always about the oil or resources of a country.

 

In Afganastan, Opium seems to be a very good money spinner for the US

 

and mountains full of minerals

 

Excellent article, excellent points made. However, as Corporate US controls the media and members of both parties, this kind of news will not be passed to the general public.

The immoral Iraq invasion and our current status in Afghanistan is all about profits, not security.

 

Wars are fought for resources. High school history lesson for all of you.

 

Obviously it is all about oil and just think the amount of fools on here running around screaming it was not..and following on from your article Horhey is this..

Secret memos expose link between oil firms and invasion of Iraq

Plans to exploit Iraq's oil reserves were discussed by government ministers and the world's largest oil companies the year before Britain took a leading role in invading Iraq, government documents show.

The papers, revealed here for the first time, raise new questions over Britain's involvement in the war, which had divided Tony Blair's cabinet and was voted through only after his claims that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction

The minutes of a series of meetings between ministers and senior oil executives are at odds with the public denials of self-interest from oil companies and Western governments at the time.

The documents were not offered as evidence in the ongoing Chilcot Inquiry into the UK's involvement in the Iraq war. In March 2003, just before Britain went to war, Shell denounced reports that it had held talks with Downing Street about Iraqi oil as "highly inaccurate". BP denied that it had any "strategic interest" in Iraq, while Tony Blair described "the oil conspiracy theory" as "the most absurd".

But documents from October and November the previous year paint a very different picture.


The rest here..

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...n-oil-firms-and-invasion-of-iraq-2269610.html

 

Yea, I noticed none of the "agenda setting" media picked up the story. Almost every time I see anything about the bombing of Libya on TV news I am told it "IS" (not "US officials say") a "humanitarian mission". 'Just ignore all those civilians being decimated by our bombs. They're our bombs but it's still a humanitarian war by defintion.' I am almost convinced the Libyan rebels were emboldened by the CIA in some way. I havent looked into yet but that's typically how these things go.

 

well they just announced they have arrested 30 US CIA spies in Iran so anything is possible

 

Got a link for that, Abu? Thanks.

 

Some writing the wikileaks cables may have thought Iraq was about oil... and Bush's chickenh.wak PNAC advisors did believe that they could take the oil and sell it to PAT for their two week war, but everyone in the oil business n
knew that was a fool's adventure.

Iraqi oil production is still less than it was during the period of Sanctions.

Remember, Big Oil hates a war zone.

 

Taking or using the oil wasnt the goal. The United States didnt need to invade Iraq to get the oil. It's about control. Control over a "stupendous source of strategic power" which gives the US "critical leverage over the European and Asian economies" and "veto power" over rivals. So far they have not succeeded in that endeaver. They tried in 2004 and then a few more times after but there was too much resistance to it from the Shi'ite population lead by Grand Ayatollah Sistani - a religious leader who Saddam Hussein didnt even mess with which is why he was never arrested.

 

No one has ever claimed oil was not a factor, but there is much more to the war in Iraq and Afghanistan than just oil. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just taking advantage of the situation to push green technology on us. Oil was a factor in Saddam invading Kuwait. The war in Iraq started because they were under deep sanctions by the international community. The reason for the sanctions was because they were not being transparent with their WMD capabilities. And the reason they were not being transparent was because they had Iran right next door and it was a deterent to keep Iran on their side of the boarder. Being under such deep sanctions, their only way to make revenue was oil. When they believed that Kuwait was cross drilling into their oil fields and Saudi was trying to undercut them by selling it cheaper, they invaded Kuwait. Plus Iraq owed Kuwait a lot of money that was loaned to them from the Iraq/Iran war. Add all this up and you can see oil was not the only reason. It was Iran + War Debt + Sanctions..

Afghanistan is fairly simple to explain... Their government harbored terrorist cells that either planned or helped facilitate the terrorists who attacked us on 911.

 

Then why does the Iraqi Constitution that the Iraqi oil is the property of the Iraqi people who through their elected representatives will determine how best to utilize that resource? If it was all about the oil why didn't we simply lift the sanctions? Why didn't we accept Saddam's offer of generous oil concessions if only we had left him in power? I know you would prefer that the Iraqi oil still be controlled by the Tikriti Baathist elite to be used like their own personal slush fund, but luckily the Iraqi people now control the Iraqi oil.

 

The present Iraqi constitution was written with the assistance of the US government and their corporate partners. As the US violates its own constitution so too will they violate theirs.

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We did not violate our constatution, we just found some loopholes. And, I am glad our constitution is not written on a stone tablet, sealed in a vault. It can be changed, added to, bent, and worked around in critical situations.

 

^^
As I already explained above..

The underlying US goal in Iraq is establishing permanent military bases in a dependant client state at the center of the world's major energy reserves.

The roots of US interests in Iraq were explained by the editors at the Washington Post:

These intentions were outlined with fair clarity in the Declaration of Principles released by the White House in November 2007, an agreement between Bush and the Maliki government.

The Declaration permits US forces to remain indefinitely. The declaration also commits Iraq to:

An oblique reference to privileged access to "some of the world's largest oil reserves."

In a signing statement, Bush declared that he will ignore Congressional legislation that interferes with the establishment of "any military installation or base for the purpose of providing for the permanent stationing of United States Armed Forces in Iraq," and will also ignore any legislation that impedes White House actions "to exercise United States control of the oil resources of Iraq."

The Boston Globe reports:

The New York Times reports:

Iraqis did not have to read the Wall Street Journal to discover that:

They have a more trust worthy audiance I guess.

The Iraq elections came about because of mass nonviolent resistance, for which the Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani became a symbol. Few competent observers would disagree with the editors of the Financial Times, who wrote March 2005 that

 

No, the US has failed so far due to mass non violent resistance of the Iraqis who may somehow know the history of the US even if we choose not to and they can see what was happenning right in front of them.

 

While Bush was attacking Iraq (for oil) Russia was completing a gas pipeline to Europe and signing up all the gas producers in the Caspian region.

While Bush was attacking Iraq and Afghanistan, the Chinese built Port Gwadar.

Bush had no financial support for Gulf War 2 from the allies, but the dual citizens of the PNAC told him that Iraqi oil would pick up the slack.

 

In Iran a spy is anybody they dont like.

 

While Bush was attacking Iraq (for oil) Russia was completing a gas pipeline to Europe and signing up all the gas producers in the Caspian region.

While Bush was attacking Iraq and Afghanistan, the Chinese built Port Gwadar.

Bush had no financial support for Gulf War 2 from the allies, but the dual citizens of the PNAC told him that Iraqi oil would pick up the slack.

Do you understand the incredible stupidity of the Bush administration?

The oil business HATES a war zone.

 

The article is about Libya, not Iraq.

 

The oil companies who are operating in Libya are Hess, Marathon, BP, Total, ENI, Dutch Shell, Cononco Phillips and Occidental.

Together they produce 1.3 million barrels a day. Not much..

The slack was picked up months ago by increased production from Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.

 

Let's say it's all about the oil and nothing else, and our presence in Iraq was not legal. Don't we have a right to a better life? Why should Iraq keep all the oil to itself when we are in need of it? It's not fair that Iraq have so much oil on their land, and us so little. It's time that Iraq start paying it's fair share.