Will Christie's easy win today smooth his way to a Nomination win in 2016?

By MAGGIE HABERMAN | 11/4/13 6:03 PM EST Updated: 11/5/13 7:21 AM EST

FREEHOLD, N.J. – New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie’s romp to reelection began with a storm.

For all the focus on his superior ads, his crossover support from unions, and the weakness of his Democratic rival, Christie’s path to victory – one that his supporters would love to see shatter the record margin for a New Jersey Republican in the historically blue state and propel an all-but-assumed bid for president – started on Oct. 29, 2012. That was the day that Hurricane Sandy touched down on the Jersey Shore.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/...ersey-2013-elections-99340.html#ixzz2jmoZ3cCW


It's going to be pretty easy for Christie to go to the Big Money Boys on the GOP side, thinking about the 2016 Presidential race, and say

"Look at who you can back....guys like Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, and Ted Cruz, who took the GOP down to record low approvals with their Shutdown Stunt.....or a guy like me who can win in states that the Democrats think they have locked up and then win re-election as well? What's a better investment on your money?"

On top of, today, those Donors are going to be looking at a "Tea Party favorite" running for Governor down in Virginia LOSING.

So where does a Republican leaning money guy put his cash.....on guys like Cruz and Cuccinelli.....or a proven winner like Christie???

And the Base? Screw 'em. Desperate for ANY Republican President after 8 years of Obama....they'll vote for whoever is the GOP Nominee, even a "RINO" like Christie.

 

I think what will be more important is not Christie himself but if it will nail the coffin shut on the Tea Party in a more general and national way.

 

Republicans have already started reaping the benefits of the lousy obamacare debacle and obama's failure as a president. Enjoy liberals. LOL!

 

'Nationally' with regards to Christie...Northeast YES, Western states NO.....loud, pushy, tough talking ppl arent popular out here! We go more for the strong, silent types with some humility...see "Reagan"

The same could be said about the South NO

Bruce Springsteen worship is unheard of outside of the NE...Christie needs to 'go country' ('lookit them boots')

 

Christie...hated by the Tea Party Right... wins?

Cuccinelli...promoted by the Tea Party Right... loses?

Cruz....promoted by the Tea Party Right...costs the GOP massively in the polls two weeks ago?

Yeah...that doesn't bode well for the TPers, does it?

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Christie was going to LOSE before Obamacare?!?!?! And how do you explain Cuccinelli floundering???

 

That IS a key point....except for Bush-41 (who won on his Veep incumbency)....both Reagan and Dubya won, and both did the "drugstore cowboy" routine for the GOP Base. McCain (though a Westerner) never tried it. Romney couldn't try it (even with his rolled-up sleeves). And Christie surely won't be able to pull off "I'm an aw shucks cow-poke" like The Gipper and Bush-43 did.

 

Yeah, what OverDrive says. Christie is a northeast politician. NE politics don't play well in the south or west.

Christie would not win a primary in Texas and would probably contribute to turning Texas blue if he results in being the GOP candidate in '16. That being by Texans just not voting for the party thus giving the Dems a majority of votes, and the electoral. You can do your own math.

Once Texas goes blue... you can call this country Obamerica.

 

Did I say Christie was going to LOSE before obamacare? strawman fail!

 

I don't believe New Jersey Fats would play well in Texas, either, but may I point out that Texas was Blue a hell of a lot more years than it has been Red. There are still a lot of people here that can remember when being an admitted PUB, damned near got you ran out of town on a rail after being tarred and feathered. If the RNC and Big Eastern PUB Machine, push too much harder, the worm may turn back to DIM.

The RNC pissed a lot of people off with their shenanigans at the last convention, and a Gun Grabbing, ObamaButt Kisser like The Round Mound of Sound, may be the long needed knife in the gut of the PUBS.

Now if we can figure how to kill off the Kool Aid Party, there may be hope.

Here on the Texas Gulf Coast, we still have people trying to recover from Rita and Ike ( aptly named ) and seeing Jersey Fats and King Obama traipsing around the money areas of Jersey may not play as well in Galveston as it does in Hoboken.

 

We'll see what happens after today.

 

TX has always been 'Conservative' so color history means nothing! I was a Democrat there for many years until Reagan...now a Reagan Republican! And TX is Republican..but still Conservative (with the exception of Austin and the Mex border towns)


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A lot can happen over the next 3 yrs:

1) Obama the 'amateur' will FAIL big time his 2nd term, and be an embarrassment even to the Black community.

2) Ted Cruz, (with a name like that he'll command the Hispanic vote!) will go from sh-- to shinola, be the new folk hero, and the GOP will be begging for the TEA Party backing!

3) Christie will leave office to become a Springsteen groupie and be but 1/2 the man he once was due to his lap bad.

4) It will finally be realized that Harry Reid died 2 yrs ago and will finally be buried. But the Demos will lose the Senate, so who cares..

Just for starters.........

 

I anticipate a slightly smaller version of the last Election, and though his re-election will certainly not hurt him he will be ripped to shreds by the vitriol of his opponents and the Tea Party backing. The man is likely the best hope of winning the Presidency the GOP has, but they will not allow him to run.

 

I don't know about the stereotype, but Christy gets a lot of positive comments from clients and friends here in SoCal.

Even liberals say they really like him because he was nice to Obama.

As for NorCal I have no clue, do they even let you vote anything besides D up there?

 

Much truth!

I do believe there are a lot of exceptions, though.

Texas was conservative but had a tendency in the DIM primaries, which were always basically the decider of the main elections. There may be ten people vying for the same job, all supposedly somewhat conservation, compared to, say Jersey or New York, but varying quite a bit in substance from fairly liberal to strong conservative. The State Hierarchy was almost always liberal, populists, or corrupt Democrat.

Keep in mind, folks like Sam Rayburn, LBJ, Jack Brooks, et al were liberal, some very liberal- LBJ and Jack Brooks come to mine. Allan Shivers was basically liberal, Coke Stevenson, probably conservative, but kicked to the curb by dead voters in those Valley Tex-Mex towns you are referring to, that elected Landslide Lyndon ( 87 votes ) to the Senate. He was a protege' of Rayburn as was Brooks. ( 42 years in Congress until we stuck his nose in the dirt because of the Brady Bill.

Austin is a hot bed for liberals, as is Houston, as is the Golden Triangle.

There are still a lot of folks that came from Jeffersonian and Jacksonian Democrat roots, and still remember those days. Yeah, we are growing older, but those roots are there.

 

Major cities in Texas....now have Democratic mayors.

Jus' saying.

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You claimed Republicans were reaping benefits from it in a discussion of Christie's likely victory.

BTW, how about Cuccinelli....why isn't HE "reaping benefits"???

 

Kevin, we KNOW what you will say if Cuccinelli loses...."Lib'rul Media smeared him!!!!!"

It's your excuse for every loss.

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Tea Partyers hated Romney.....money and splitting their vote still won him the Nomination over their objections.

And once he won the Nomination....they all became Romney defenders and supporters. Christie can pull off the same trick easily.

 

But still I didn't say it. Glad to see you admit your strawman fail.

 

The Tea Party at the time was FAR less influential in Republican politics, and did indeed have an impact on Romney due to it's candidates doing damage to him during the debates and primaries. Yet you are partially correct as they certainly picked him over Obama in the election.

 

...While at the same time the TEA Party was hindered by the IRS vote.

 

Topic was Christie winning....you said-

Either you were just going off-topic...or you were offering Christie's likely victory as proof of a "reaping of benefits over Obamacare" for Republicans.

Which is it?

And for the THIRD time....how does your claim apply to Ken Cuccinelli?

 

That's not their claim. Since their 2010 "Revolution" they claim they have been a MAJOR influence in Republican politics....and 2012 came after 2010.

BTW, I'll bet you Romney's $10,000 wagering money...a Tea Party supported Primary candidate is NOT the 2016 GOP Presidential Nominee.

 

There are a plethora of reasons... most of which you don't believe. Indoctrination, liberal mainstream media, Presidential lies, uninformed voters who vote party lines, only about 30+% of the population actually vote, GOP establishment not backing Conservatives, etc.

 

How were Tea Partyers who voted in 2010....stopped from voting in 2012?!?!?

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I know TWO of the reasons you'll never give-

1. Cuccinelli was too Far Right on social issues, like sodomy laws and the mandatory vaginal probes.

2. Cuccinelli was a bad candidate. (Because he was chosen and supported by the Tea Partyers)

 

Lol at thinking that hispanics will vote for Cruz because of his last name.

These conservatives think minorities are a bunch of mindless drones. You gotta love it.

Let me put it this way, I don't think even Cubans will be supporting that loser Cruz, let alone other hispanics.

 

Vera Cruz........

The Democrats are the ones who own a 'plantation' for THEIR minorities! They hold them captive with free cell phones...