Will Libertarian Johnson throw his support to Clinton?

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Johnson's pal and running mate Bill Weld is a very bright fellow who has enjoyed the quixotic, principled gambit of running for president on the Libertarian Party ticket, but it sounds as if he has decided that "it is the time to put aside childish things."

    As a matter of certitude, either Madame Secretary or the reality tv performer will by elected on November 8 to lead the nation.

    Weld apparently does not relish the remote prospect of being branded as the 2016 edition of the 2000 Ralph Nader.

    Will he talk down his buddy in the interests of the nation?

     
  2. BleedingHeadKen

    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah, the progressive need to infantilize anyone who doesn't agree with them. It's "childish" to participate in a way that doesn't agree with the morally superior, arrogant progressive. Thank you for revealing your true colors.

    And, of course, you would read this as an endorsement of Clinton. Nowhere did he say "Vote for Clinton." He called on every voter not to vote for Trump. Like your right-wing fundie counterparts, progressives are moral authoritarians, arrogant, and lack any critical thinking.

    Let's see what he had to say about your object of adoration:

    “I thought there were two statements in the Goldman and Sachs speech that are worthy of attention. The first was her assurance to the Wall Street bankers that she has a public opinion, which they knew about, and a private opinion, that’s telling me that she doesn’t really hold that position. She’s saying ‘I will do anything, as long as you pay me enough money, but I have to hold a different position with the public.’ She’s not telling the truth.

    The second thing that’s alarming is that she said the people who know best what regulations are appropriate for national services, are the people who work in the industry, ‘people like yourselves, so that’s what I’m going to be looking at for guidance as I decide regulations.’ Again, translation: ‘I will do anything, as long as you keep the bank roll going"


    The man wants to win the race.
     
  3. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    And, of course, you would falsely so claim.

    Weld's powerful message does not address your fixation's suitability for office.

    The temperamentally-stable fellow eloquently lays out the case against creepy clown Trumpery.

    A selfless, patriotic message masterfully expressed!

    Much as I like Gary Johnson, Weld should have been assigned primacy on the Libertarian ticket.
     
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    Johnson is not a libertarian but a mix of right and left - in other words, he has no core beliefs. Neither is Weld, he is just another NW "liberal" who isn't quite socialist enough to make it as a "progressive".

    "Young Turks" Cenk Uygur is a fanatic totalitarian. Maybe you should look up the origination of the term "Young Turks" - a group who initially came to power in early 20th century Turkey by claiming they wanted democracy, but once they gained power revealed their totalitarian desires and brutally murdered dissenters, massacred Christians, and committed the Armenian Genocide.

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    Crucified Armenian women in the area around Der-es-sor. Some women have been saved - as here in the picture - ...

    And you want to use as a positive reference a person who claims the mantle of the brutal "Young Turks"?
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Of course, as successful governors, they have both shown themselves to be pragmatic libertarians, not airy-fairy ideologues.

    One reason that the fiscally-conservative Weld is especially critical of the zany reality tv performer and aware of the damage he could inflict upon America is his voodoo economics:

    Trump's Economic Plan Runs Afoul Of Deficit Hawks By Ballooning The Debt

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    Neither Weld nor Johnson are libertarians of any kind, "pragmatic" or otherwise.

    Weld is not fiscally conservative, when he was gov of Taxachusetts the states fiscal wreck remained a wreck. He turned out to be a bigger spender than his predecessor (the loon Dukakis). The only way Weld can pretend he was fiscally responsible is because the recession ended in the middle of his term as gov - through no action of his own.
     
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    What planet do you live on? Gary Johnson thought Aleppo. was a dog food, losing cred there daily natty

    how bright could Bill Weld be, if he's second fiddle to this guy?

    see the stupidity first hand
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW5gQo43ay4

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/...pid-Again-Sticks-His-Tongue-Out-To-Electorate

    Your boy Billy, even thinks so..
    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/09/30/bill-maher-gary-johnson-fcking-idiot/
     
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    He is on CNN (right now) saying "Trump is toast".
     
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    what me worry?

    come on man!, your much better then this
     
  10. Natty Bumpo

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    Your hyper-partisan hysteria is noted.

    After Weld's withering denunciation of the reality tv performer, it'll be interesting how his Libertarian Party running mate proceeds.
     
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    Weld is widely recognized as intellectually impressive by those capable of such discernment.
     
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    I have no idea what the OP is about since that user is on my ignore list but earlier I saw Johnson on CNN and he was trashing shillary pretty well on her latest criminal investigation
     
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    shows how much you know, Gary Johnson is a rabid anti trump as well. there no different then that Romney wall street stooge running in Utah to help Hillary defeat Trump.
     
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    Facts are not partisan. Your running from facts is.
     
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    Nader didn't throw the election in 2000, 200k Democrats voted for Bush.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Not sure what "facts" you are pulling out of there.

    That the Libertarian VP candidate has so thoroughly destroyed their messiah will have no effect on the reality tv performer's cult, I'm sure.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Let's not forget how anti-semite Buchanan laughed about all the Jews that accidentally voted for him in Miami.

    Jebby's screwed-up operation was far more responsible than Nader, I agree, but Nader was still blamed by some.
     
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    According to your statement, no one has ever been smarter than their boss...
     
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    Is the Aleppo gaffe really a statement on the mans intellect or is it a statement that he is not following international affairs? Anyway, is intellect really the stone a trump supporter wants to throw? Yeah, I didn't think so.
    Look, I agree that Johnson has represented himself less than optimally. He was probably not the best lib choice either. That said, he does seem to be very honest, especially by comparison (I know - thats not saying much). He does have governing experience as well as experience running a successful business. He was a great two term governor for my state. He did some wonderful things like balancing our budget. Choosing between Johnson, Clinton, and Trump is a complete no brainer. Johnson is FAR AND AWAY the best candidate despite his poor performance. He's infinitely smarter and more qualified than trump. He's not corrupt and not in anyone's pocket. He's also the candidate least likely to be incarcerated during their term. That should speak volumes.
     
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    All three of the Johnson voters I know, have already cast their ballots.
     

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