Will there be a second wave ...

Oh, indeed we do. And, contrary to what Donald Dork might say, I think it is the WHO that must take the lead in the distribution of any evolved solution.

The agency has experience in leading multilateral development efforts, thought though the WHO is not particularly a "hi-tech agency". It is more "hands on". Which, in a way is goodness because if it does get a technical solution, then distributing that solution becomes much easier through the WHO.

So, yes,, the effort to distribute a technical-solution MUST GO international and all countries have a very good reason to contribute however they can to the effort. Of course, it may have to be done without US scientists, but let's hope that this is only one more nail in an incompetent dolt's electoral coffin.

It is, after all, a simple choice between life or death ...

 

PER CAPITA DATA

I have lived in the EU for a good long time, and I never really expected the US to behave as readily and eagerly as the EU did to Covin-19. Germany is the first European country to "out" itself and a few others are about to follow. (I would like someone to track Covid-15 deaths by time-line & country, and it would be IMMENSELY important to treat the EU as if it were the European version of a united-states entity. Because that is what it IS fundamentally.)

The US is still counting the body-bags and will be doing so for some time to come. Given the lack of preparation and leadership (from the top) I suspect that the final per-capita results are going to be much, much greater stateside than in the EU. (Even Canada may turn-up looking better than the US in terms of "lives-lost per-capita".)

The best place to see "per capita" death evolution is here: Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) – the data - and frankly I-for-one am not pleased with the lack of individual major country data.

Here is the history-graphic for US deaths per capita*: Total COVID-19 tests, confirmed cases and deaths per million people, United States

We shall see for Uncle Sam ... the hard-way ...

PS: I, for one, am sending a complaint letter to this address: info@ourworldindata.org (If you wish to do so also, be nice; these people are not being paid billions to do an otherwise VERY difficult job of compiling/publishing world-wide data!)

 

Data link for US above that does not work: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-deaths-covid-19

 

People want to wait 18 months for a vaccine?
What if it mutates? Another 18 months?
Have we eradicated the flu with vaccines?

 

THE SOCIAL HISTORY OF VIRUSES

People have no say in the matter. A flu does not ask for permission to enter a country or an individual.

Possible but highly unlikely. A readaptation of the present vaccine likely will stop it.

The flu was/is endemic to animals, and all humans are - after all - animals.

From off the web:

Viruses and humans have know one another a long, long time - see pictorial history here ...

 

DAILY CONFIRMED COVID-19 GRAPHIC TREND-LINE SITE

PS: Note that the confirmed-deaths graphic trend-line in the visual is decidedly downward.

We shall see if, how and when it should seek a second worldwide peak ...

 

Depending upon the infection and other factors, getting an infection DOES confer immunity.

Full Measure by Sharyl Attkisson just did a piece on the mayor of Miami, maybe the first or second "official" case in Miami. He tested positive, had only mild symptoms, and has since his recovery donated blood so that his antibodies against Covid could be harvested.

 

For what it is worth, a preliminary review of HIV: How Does HIV Affect the Body?

 

WHO says there isn't enough evidence for that claim with this virus.

 

Why did Trump create a plan for opening our economy and then fail to promote that it be put into action?

His plan states a requirement for testing and tracking - but we do not have NEARLY enough test capacity and there isn't manpower for tracking.

 

GET IT?

There is no duality in infectious diseases. Either one a has got it or not - what happens consequently is the important part ...

Yes, so lucky him. He won't be getting it again. (I doubt his blood is acceptable at a blood-bank, however.)

But that does not mean he is "immune". He got the disease, it did not kill him - he should thank his good stars. Could he get the disease again? It all depends upon whether or not his body is able to develop the "antibodies". To be immune your body must be able to build that immunity internally.

Definition of immunity (Merriam-Webster): "A condition of being able to resist a particular disease especially through preventing development of a pathogenic microorganism or by counteracting the effects of its products." (Which depends upon the disease. Getting a cold one winter does not mean you are immune forever.)

It all depends upon the nature of the illness. We don't call "colds" a disease, do we. But colds are recurring in humans.

It also appears that deadly viruses are recurring. They've been happening for thousands of years. Meaning what?

Meaning that SARS and Covid-19 should be teaching us a lesson! Meaning what?

That we'd better get IT, before IT gets us ... !

MEANING ALSO THIS

-Which means on a global level, which is the lesson that Covid-19 should have taught us. Oh, how's that?
-Yes, meaning the over-reaching authority in an epidemic of worldwide proportion needs a General Management. Which, I suggest, should be the WHO.
-Somebody please get that message through the THICK-SKULL OF DONALD DORK.

 

KEY MANIPULATIONS OF THE POPULAR-VOTE

Goodness, the jerk has "promised" so much it is difficult to see where the fantasy ends. The guy was unfit to be a presidential candidate and has now proven how unfit he is to be PotUS. (What more do we need?)

Two key manipulations of the Popular-vote that need to "go" (which the US instituted to rid itself of the British Monarch):
*Democratic elections in the US have been a farce since the get-go of the Electoral College in 1812, which instituted the first manipulation of the popular-vote based upon population-number.
*The second Key Manipulation of the popular-vote was Gerrymandering, which was introduced in Massachusetts voting by its Governor at the time in 1812!

So, you see, the history of manipulating the popular-vote goes back very far in American history! And it is still very much alive, first the two "manipulations" cited above and also nowadays the manipulation of advertising. We "sell" politicians like they were chewing-gum! Or motor-oil. Or morning coffee.

People sell themselves and not their political platforms. Hillary won by a healthy margin the popular-vote and what did she get for her efforts to "win the presidency" - which the popular-vote should automatically confer? Nada, niente, zip, tipota, nuthin'!

And given the fact that the popular-vote of we, the sheeple, could be manipulated by an error more than two centuries old (1812) is breathtaking. Of course, most of us just go to a voting-center and vote - without the slightest concern of how those names popped-up on the ballot!

Why? Because our two-party system of voting was designed from the get-go to be easily manipulated in order to assure it becomes SOLELY a two-party system of voting!

Sorry, boyz-'n-girlz, that just aint good enufff! It wont "cut the mustard".

Because our political system is not the least bit like it was in 1812! Nations like people EVOLVE. It's high-time we devised a major improvement in our democratic system of governance and that aint-gonna-be-eazy ...

PS: One awful attribute of the present system is targeted for key destitution. We've got to take BigMoney out of the electoral process. But that is going to mean changing American notions of the key importance of money in their lives. (Of which this idiotic notion: "The more wealth you have, the more you should be able to influence political outcomes.)

 

What "plan"?

Based upon what criteria?

 

Please note the Very Significant Decrease that occurred this just-past day !!!!

 

Most of what WHO has said so far has been way off base. I'm not against the organization, but it is made up of humans, and therefore quite capable of errors and misjudgments.

 

You don't seem to be familiar with biology, infectious disease, antibodies and the principle of vaccines.

 

Thankfully, you are here to discern the right from the wrong and thus can correct them.

I know well they are highly professional people. Above all, you must understand that they are the practical arm of medicine and not scientific. If anybody got or gets Covid-19 wrong it'll be in the labs. That does not mean they are fools. Just that the solution is more difficult than it appears.

But, if it ever came to applying whatever Final Solution is given, then I am pleased that the WHO is managing it across countries. Because they built that know-how there.

I sometimes wonder if Yanks can see the Real World beyond the 3-mile limit ...

 

Let's not forget the purpose of the WHO, which is NOT the advancement of the medical science.

It is the projection of medical capacity throughout the world. If more of you were born in Africa or Southeast Asia, you'd have a better appreciation of the organisation ... ?

 

The "people" will wait and some will die until there's one that works. Those are integral risks of "life on earth" and have been throughout the history of mankind.

Humans have been dying of plagues for centuries. It's just our bad luck that one happened in our lifetime. (Humanity will survive. It always does.)

The intervals between the plagues are more long-term (most certainly) than the common-cold and they likely will be around still for a good long time. Unless mankind somehow finds the "magic injection" that kills them once and for all.

Lotsa luck needed to get to that one ...

 

LEST WE FORGET

From here:

 

Any voting system that includes polling places is just plain not acceptable. That kind of system is rife with opportunity for manipulation of the vote by those in power. That manipulation comes in the form of available times for voting, location of polling places, changing ID requirements, amount of equipment available to service voters in a timely fashion, staffing by volunteers or others who don't know the law, misinformation on voting times/places, easily hacked machines, no paper trial, etc., etc. ALL these are being used today where polling places exist.

In WA, OR, CO and ?? voting is all by mail.

A registered voter gets mailed a ballot with a barcode that identifies the registration entry. The voter marks the ballot, signs and mails it in by the election date. That signature gets compared to the signature in the registration.

You can't copy ballots, because two ballots with the same barcode is an easily detected problem.

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/openingamerica/

It's being pretty well hidden, it seems.

Why are we having briefings that don't mention progress against the Trump plan for opening America???

What states have met or are making progress on meeting these criteria?

What are the criteria and why do those who were in Trump's several planning groups that produced this plan see these critera as important?

What does the federal government need to do to meet their end of the plan?

 

I don't doubt they are highly professional people.

Highly professional people are mere humans. They can be corrupted in the same ways that other humans can.

With the luxury of hindsight, it is easy to see that those highly professional experts erred in significant ways, and they engaged in very large amounts of fear mongering in the process.

 

There are just too many independent groups looking at the same data and answering the same questions. And, each of those groups gets paid on the basis of whether they are right. If you want to hire an expert, you don't pick one with a bad performance record.

Plus, I haven't seen any "fear mongering". The fact that there is bad news does not suggest fear mongering.

What we've had is slow and inept response, with poor communication to citizens.

For example, the president is pushing to open our economy. Do you know the White House plan for opening our economy? Do you know what conditions must be met for each phase, what corporate responsibilities are once the conditions are met, etc.?

Instead of what we are supposed to be doing, we get dangerous and untested medical "solutions" which clearly should NOT be implemented by anyone in the "briefing" audience - in fact, so bad that they make America look like a sick joke.

 

FYI, I am not the type person who looks to the government to solve any problems in my life. I do not expect the government to protect me from anything, because I'm old enough to know very well that it can protect me from nothing. The government's reputation for lies and deception is FAR GREATER than its reputation for truth telling.

Yes, I will confess that I do visit the NOAA websites to get my weather information.