Windmills!

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  1. Longshot

    Longshot Well-Known Member

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    Where do they get their electricity from?
     
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    I think the answer you are looking for but are to obtuse to ask is the power company. So let me point out before you go down that rabbit hole that that energy that comes thru the little wire is much more efficient than the stuff that comes out of the hose at the filling station.
     
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    Have you tried flying recently? Because of the inconvenience, I would rather drive whenever possible.
    Don't you think that is really silly comment? I drive a variety of routes Some only a mile or two and sometimes thousands of miles. When I am travelling, extra stops cost time. There is also the factor of looking for a gas station which can eat up a few miles and gasoline. Gas stations and electric charging stations are not going to be a precise number of miles apart.

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    Well now, not exactly. An electric motor is nearly 100% efficient. However, the system which generates the electricity plus the transmission of that electricity is not as efficient as a modern gasoline engine.
     
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    I must be a bit tougher on my wife and kids. Sit down, shut up, and don't drink water. Last year on vacation we drove 1181 miles in one day.
     
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    It's all about energy conversion. Each conversion results in a loss.

    Coal is burned. This heats water. The water turns to steam. The steam turns a turbine. The turbine runs a generator. The generated electricity is transferred through the electric grid. The electricity goes into a battery. The battery is later used to run an electric motor. The electric motor is used to drive the car's wheels. How many conversions is that?

    And remember. All those cute little electric cars are actually being run by coal or gas.
     
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    Democrat plan for energy generation by Dog on Treadmill may require more tax payer funded government studies.
     
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    Sounds like a HYBRID would solve all of your problems for now and then you could buy an EV later.
     
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    A hybrid would work fine.
     
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    A Tesla Model 3 has a 62KWH battery pack and a range of 260 miles. Since they don't let it completely discharge I going to ignore the charge efficiency which I think is about 90%. I pay $0.13 for a KWH of electricity so about $8 to fill the tank.
    A similar gas powered car gets maybe 25MPG @ $2.75 a gallon - almost $30 for the same trip.
     
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    That doesn't sound like vacation to me.
     
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    Hade to get to Oregon fast, been to Wyoming many times. Stayed there for 2 days then Vancouver for a week, then a drive through the Canadian Rockies to Calgary. After that dropped ack into the states for a drive home. Gone 2 weeks.
     

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