Wisconsin Recall Tom Barrett Aggressively Goes After Scott Walker In First Face-Off

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  1. ConsAreVile

    ConsAreVile Banned

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    Dead on man. Well I suppose your final question was a rhetorical one. Obviously they hate truth because they are ideologically opposed to reality.
     
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    Maybe such things should wait until the voters have decided. What sort of reality is it when a so-called foregone conclusion is not quite so? Does it have the same backpeddle sound as Bugs Bunny?
     
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    Not sure what GOP ideological opposition to reality has to do with Bugs Bunny, nor what foregone conclusion you speak of. The people do not vote to determine what "reality" is, only for who their elected officials will be.
     
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    Walker's lead has increased from 6 points to as much as 12 in some polls. The Left is getting desperate, especially since Walker's policies are working.
     
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    Sounds like you are saying if Walker wins it won't be reality... I really wish I could enter your liberal fantasy world, even for a few minutes, it really must be quite something...
     
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    If Walker wins, what won't be reality?
     
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    I don't know, how does liberal fantasy land look at it? I'm forsaken, and must live in the real world, without the benefit of pretending things didn't happen or couldn't happen at a whim, so you tell me...
     
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    What the hell are you talking about? Seek help.
     
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    Liberal fantasy land, where you seem to reside, which allows you to ignore things like reality, nothing new, just a different bot singing the same old songs, bravo!
     
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    I'm a Walker voter, and I will bet you $1000 that my IQ is higher than yours.
     
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    ^^^^dead nuts accurate^^^^
     
  12. Subdermal

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    You're against 'coercive Government', eh?

    Interesting, since public union collective bargain fits that definition EXACTLY.

    Do you think State Workers should have the same rights as Federal Workers, Agent_286? Don't be a fleebagger again...answer the question!
     
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    Is the election over yet? No? Well, let me tell you who will win: Walker. Why? Because the Dem. is too negative and has presented a single agenda point: attacking Walker, and people are fed up with negative -- they have enough of it in their normal lives.

    I've seen other Democrats loose elections because of this single focus negativity. Tom Barrett needs to get out more and see what the people want and present an agenda. Never ever make your whole campaign a critique of the other guy.
     
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    Barrett has about as good a record to run on as does Obama. Barrett is toast, and the voters of the State of Wisconsin are increasingly recognizing Barrett as an empty suit.
     
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    In the last election, state Democrats ran from Obama's endorsement like it was a poison tart. As a Democrat, the best I can hope for is that Obama returns the favor and won't get additional negative reputation points from the actions of these local democratic politicians when they crash and burn from their own negativity.
     
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    Oh, I dunno...they've been positively awful for this State for years.
     
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    Barrett lost to Walker, he'll lose by a bigger margin this time.
     
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    All of these articles are drawn from the same source, and are simply being recirculated as talking points for the leftist media. The information within the articles themselves provides enough ammunition to clearly demonstrate that the conclusion of "Mostly false" is completely absurd.

    http://www.jsonline.com/news/wiscon...-to-create-jobs-number-fe5ht47-153791995.html

    The article correctly points out that Wisconsin jobs grew by some 22,000 jobs from Dec 2010-Dec 2011; and correctly points out that Walker builds on that number by doing what Barrett did, i.e. using snapshot numbers.

    It calls Barrett's usage "correct... at the time", and awards him a judgement of "half true" - neverminding that the snapshot Barrett used fell within the period in which that state gained the 22,000 jobs. Clearly, obviously, laughably - Barrett's usage was intentionally deceptive, and Milwaukee Journal-Sentinal played along.

    On the other hand, after acknowledging that Walker's 22,000 jobs figure is, even if not finalized, correct - they say that his ad is "mostly false" b/c he augments the BLS numbers with early 2012 snapshots - which as pointed out, is exactly what Barrett did to receive a "half-true; even though Barrett's usage was clearly deceptive. Walker points out that they are snapshots, and he clearly says that extrapolated over the year the number would be XX,XXX - whatever the number was. If he had done what Barrett did, i.e. cherry picked a snapshot that went against the trend line, I would say he was being intentionally deceptive; but that isn't the case. Walker is showing numbers that can be substantiated.

    When reading leftist sources, it is unusual that they actually provide enough factual information to come away with a reasonably accurate picture of the situation. In this case however, after you strip away the tone and the obvious erroneous conclusion, they do provide the facts necessary to come to the correct understanding - which is amazing inandof itself.

    Conclusion??

    The Journal-Sentinal's conclusions are obviously driven by left-wing bias, and are inkeeping with their long history of protecting Democrats and attempting to smear Republicans... but the facts are there.

    Barrett, the unions, the dems?? Their contentions are easily shown to be completely false. Using a snapshot that is completely out of context with the trend line; and of course drawn from within a larger period of undeniable growth - is obviously deceptive, and deliberately so. Of course the MJS will never come right out and admit that.

    Walker's 22,000 number is solid; and his use of the snapshot is credible b/c it does, in fact, show growth in keeping with the upward trend line.
     
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    Great post, it is so refreshing to read a post with honesty wrapped around it. You being from Wisconsin would have a better handle on the pulse of all things political, and as you have consistantly pointed out, not a bunch of political ideology disguised at truth.
     
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    If the Democrats and the unions lose this election in Wisconsin I think it looks pretty bad for Obama in November.

    Of course if Walker is re-elected only 60% of the voters will hear about it because the other 40% only watch the major news networks and they will treat it as a non-event.

    But the 60% who are inclined to vote for Romney are the only voters who matter in this election anyway.
     
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    Don't make me start calling you Roger Rabbit. Look, you don't ever want to go down that rabbit hole. Been there. Even though I survived it I still haven't reconciled the fact that at one point in my life I actually believed everyone else was responsible for me.
     
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    What the left fails to see is this article shows jobs have been created under Walker. Walker had done what he said he would
     
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    Because Wyrd of Fawd is almost as smart as President Obama and can tell people how to vote. But, can he pronounce the word, corpsman?
     
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    Walker even leads in the highly left-leaning Marquette University poll , by at least six points:


    Milwaukee, Wis. – A new Marquette Law School Poll shows that with three weeks to go until the recall election Governor Scott Walker has taken a six-percentage point lead over Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, 50-44 percent, among likely voters.

    https://law.marquette.edu/poll/

    The ONLY POLL showing it closer than that is the Barrett campaign's OWN POLL, like that isn't slanted to beat the band....

    The ass-whuppin' Leftworld is about to take in Wisconsin, is just a PREVIEW of what's coming in November.

    Get ready...it's coming....
     
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    The best thing about Marquette is the basketball team.
     

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