With $76B surplus, California proposes rebates for millions

I wish it was that simple. Regulations are supposed to protect the environment. Are we better off sending manufacturing to unregulated China? You live in SoCal, so I am sure you are aware that San Clemente beach one of the most toxic beaches in the country.

Are people healthier because of the ACA?

Neither party cares about the environment or your health. Its about power and results speak for themselves.

 

I saw this and immediately thought.... this is Nancy trying to bail out her nephew..... And dang if I wasn't right....lol

 

Yeah, they have a problem with a huge pidgeon problem and sewage runoff, but it's in one particular area, although.....

https://www.sanclementetimes.com/san-clemente-pier-no-1-polluted-beach-state/
According to the Heal the Bay report, 94% of the 500 California beaches monitored by the environmental agency received an A or B grade for the busy summer season.

During the dry winter season, 87% of beaches received an A or B grade. Overall, 33 California beaches made it on Heal the Bay’s coveted Honor Roll this year, which is lower than last year (37) likely due to higher than average rainfall.

To make it on the Honor Roll the beach must be monitored year-round and score perfect A+ grades each week in all seasons and weather conditions. Three San Clemente Beaches made it on the Honor Roll list and they include Linda Lane Beach, North Beach and Avenida Calafia.

My nurse calls me in to schedule twice a year regular checkups, whereas prior to the ACA, I never had a doctor or nurse, in my entire life, I couldn't afford it. I also had an $9k operation that I would not have been able to afford, prior to the ACA, $500 prescription glasses, $700 month drug perscription that I cannot live with out, so I would say the ACA has saved my life.

Oh bullshit. Dems care, republicans don't. Obama gave me health care, and ALL republicans voted against it, and that means the world to me and millions of others.

What the **** do you know? YOu don't know ****.

 

Heal the Bay is a great organization I support. Their existence is an example of government taking care of the environment.

I am sorry to hear about your medical conditions. Prescription glasses don't cost $500.00. Americans grow sicker than ever in spite of record use of pharm products. Sadly, the direction we are going is not sustainable. Soon, there will not be enough healthy people to contribute to the workforce and cuts will have to be made.

Dems may care, but that concern is being exploited by politicians that do not. Results show that.

 

Typical right wing deflection.

Claim BS on the surplus then move the goalposts and say surpluses don't matter because the deficit didn't go down.

 

That's what eye glass world billed my health care provider. WTF do I know? My HC plan allows $400, so that 's what was paid.

I didn't state my situation asking for sympathy, only to illustrate a point.


Yes, America needs to improve it's diet.

We can start by disallowing junk food ads on TV,

And, disallowing prescription drugs advertised on TV, both are destroying the nation, as we poison ourselves with junk food, then use drugs to try and mask over the symptoms caused by it.

It's insanity.

That being said, the party that brought me affordable health care was democrats, and republicans tried, 60 times (or so, by attempts in the senate and the house), to take my health care, away.

So, what conclusion from that, am I supposed to draw?

I sure as hell can't agree with you that 'dems and repubs don't care'.

Seems to me it's repubs that don't care, based on past events since Obama.

Yeah, there are lobbyists and the system has lots of problems but all that doesn't negate the essential point.

 

Good points. I did not take your personal experience as a call for sympathy and appreciate discussing anecdotal accounts. I had a completely different experience. Growing up, I was prone to illness. Sinus infections, strep, stomach issues. They gave me meds that almost killed me. This was long before I learned how to strengthen my immune system naturally.

You hit the nail on the head when it comes to unhealthy food and meds, but no politician will stand up to food giants of big pharma. Food and drugs are the main factor in our high levels of illness and have deep connections that will ensure a steady flow of tax dollars.

I would be with you 100% if the product called "health care" was making people healthier. Unfortunately, making and keeping people sick is extremely profitable.

 

Well, health is really up to the individual. "health care" is a misnomer. the medical arts & sciences have it's rightful applications, and it's abuse. Access to doctors, medicine, etc., is what we're talking about, so don't let the terms influence your thinking. When we're talking about health care, we are talking about access to doctor care, nurses, dental, check ups, lab work, alerting folks if they are getting close to diabetes, monitoring vitals, that sort of thing. To say 'not making people healthy' and chuck it all because it doesn't make the right sound bite for you seems rather cynical to me.

 

Put opinions aside for a moment and look at results. 1/3 Americans are diabetic or pre-diabetic. Obesity kills far more Americans than Covid, but food giants wield tremendous political power and no politician on either side will stand up to them. The ACA only compounds the problem by masking symptoms so that the patient may comfortably continue their addiction to fat, sugar, and salt.

We spend more on "health care" per person than the average family makes around the world and few are willing to acknowledge results.

I would be with you 100% if it were about access to routine care and the unlikely injury or illness. Poisoning my fellow Americans is just not something I can support.

 

That's a different subject than to deny or include people access to care. And, there are numerous things about health care that are not related to diet, as well.

You want to improve the national diet, fine, I'm all for it. But, to say, "I don't like your diet, so no doctor for you' is rather absurd, on it's face.

 

It is not a different subject. Putting the government in charge of our health has shown to be a big mistake. Results speak for themselves.

 

The government is not in charge of my health, my doctor is.

Where do you get these ideas?

 

What I would like to know is HOW they got a surplus? California was one of the states to shut down businesses the hardest. Their unemployment rate in March was 8.3 with only NY and Hawaii being the only states with a higher rate. LINK: Unemployment Rate by State for March 2021 | Best States | US News And it was higher not to long ago. According to Statista California averaged 10.1 unemployment for 2020. LINK: • USA - state unemployment rate 2020 | Statista So how did California go from a deficit of $54B in June of 2020 LINK: California faces $54B budget deficit (politico.com) to a surplus of $76B in slightly less than a years time with so many businesses shut down and their unemployment rate being among the highest in the country? That is a $130B difference in such a short time. Where did the money come from? I'm not aware of them stopping any of the projects or entitlement programs that they have.

Seriously, it is extremely suspicious that any state gained $130B in less than a year amid a pandemic and shut downs. Has any other state done anything like this?

 

You are incorrect. Your doctors actions are heavily regulated by the government.

 

so?

So is my highway, so are the structures we live in.

So is the airplane you fly in, so are the cars you drive, etc.

And your point is, what?

 

Nobody is forced to donate to political campaigns. That is a good thing.

 

You are mistaken.
https://www.fec.gov/introduction-ca...gram was,assist eligible minor party nominees).

Also, tax dollars are used to buy votes on a regular basis.

 

Wealth re-distribution. Socialism 101. It's the Democrat's way of buying votes!

 

I addressed your point. You said that the government is not in charge of your health, and that your doctor was. That is incorrect.

 

That is government corruption. It isn't a donation.

A vote doesn't count as a donation in my book.

 

I addressed your post saying that nobody is forced to donate to political campaigns. That is incorrect. Tax dollars are used for that purpose, both directly and indirectly. Newsom is using the amount he overcharged tax payers to buy votes.

 

Donations are voluntary. Taxes are not. It is government corruption not a donation. Newsom is also corrupt. However, if he refunds taxpayers based on the amount they paid, that is at least an example of equality. In such a case it is not buying votes, it is refunding taxes paid, something for which I approve.

 

I believe Cali claimed a 46 billion deficit and suddenly during a recall of the governor they will hand out money? Fascinating.

 

But that is not what he is doing. He is giving $600.00 checks based on income. I do not qualify for a check because I work long hours and make too much money. You are right about not calling corruption a donation.

 

Anytime government fails to treat people equally it is being corrupt. I think I mentioned the corruption above. I doubt it will buy many votes and I certainly don't know that it is motivation for it. Sounds like a waste of money for a state that has so many financial problems. Perhaps they should save it for a rainy day.