Woman dies after declining cancer treatments to save the life of her unborn child

If there was help around, I would wait, instead of placing my own life in danger and creating more work for the lifeguards. That is the responsible thing to do, but some people would dive in and drown themselves, meaning people have two people to rescue, not one.

 

LMAO

YOUR KIDS GOING UNDER….AND YOU SIT ON THE SIDE AND WAIT. LMAO Yea that would be my guess. "Leave it up to someone else….why should I put myself out."

Your side just does not want to save…..ya don't care.

 

If my child were going down…I would do everything in my power to help them. I would grab something and jump in….and if there was nothing to grab…I would still jump in. That is how much I love my child. Now I am sure there are those who are pro-abortion that can't grasp that kind of sacrifice and love…but I do. I can't imagine anyone living if their child perished knowing they did nothing. Life would not be worth living.

Its called selflessness….and love trumps all.

 

I'd do anything to save the life of any of my children, but if I were pregnant I'd abort and get treated. That's because I'm a sensible woman and not a romantic, sanctimonious air dreamer.

 

That's not what I asked you. What I asked you was if you could destroy my position.

 

That is because you put yourself above your child. This has nothing to do with being romantic…it has to do with love. And if you didn't love the child inside you then…well you would abort. Me get over myself? .

 

Even if you knew you would drown? That is suicide, and your religion believes suicide is a sin.

 

Funny, neither Makedde nor Alexa even bothered answering my question to them on page 4. But after reading the next 7 pages I think I know the answers already.

 

So what are you wanting to know? You want me to say I want my daughter killed over my grand daughter? Nope. I don't want either killed. She has already said she would choose treatment in preference to dying and leaving her two (or three) children motherless.

 

WElcome to the group….

 

What does a pagan know about Christianity?

It might be a sin…but that does not mean you do not go to heaven. There is only one sin that would keep you from heaven…denial of Christ.

I might not be able to swim….but stranger things have happened…who says I might not survive and save my child. I have heard of stories where people use strength to help people who are trapped….with God all things are possible. I would not jump into the water wanting to kill myself…the Lord would know my motives. He knows my heart….and if the motives were pure…in this case they certainly would be….I believe God would condone my actions.

 

Thats because your obviously a narcissistic…self absorbed person who always puts themselves first in every circumstance. Right? The thing you don't get…..that child in your womb, the child YOU WILLING TOOK THE RISK TO CONCEIVE….IS A CHILD…IT IS YOURS…THE SAME AS THE CHILDREN YOU GAVE BIRTH TOO.

 

Yeah, that's not God, that's adrenaline.

 

No, Churchmouse, no.

It's not the same as the children she gave birth to, because she has a responsibility to the children she gave birth to, not the future child that, in this situation, could potentially cause her to lose her life and not be able to provide for the children that are already here. We have a responsibility to provide for those that are in this world already, not to lose our lives trying to protect children that haven't even been born yet. There are already too many people on Earth, making children lose their mother just to conceive one more is ludicrous. You take care of the children you have in every way possible, you don't give up your life to protect that which isn't even a person and then leave real person's without a parent. The logic there is completely missing. It's touching, and heroic, and noble, to sacrifice your life like this woman did. It's also stupid. I respect that she made a choice, and that it was hers to make, but in my opinion it was a stupid choice that her family will have to deal with for the rest of their lives. It's not selfish to choose the lives of the children you already have over the potential life of a child that you haven't even had yet.

 

Who designed the process that made adrenaline available to individuals on demand, Brainiac?

 

Thousands of years of evolution did, Mr. Know-it-all, though not with the intent that you think it had. It was likely developed as a boost to the fight-or-flight response with the purpose of keeping those with it alive longer.

 

Nobody designed it, it evolved.

 

So you can't even prove salamanders evolved from fish, and I'm a know-it all?

How very amusing.

You do realize you've just admitted you don't know what the hell you're talking about, right?

And just who or what is it that you imagine intended to produce that result? Hmmmm?

 

Of course I don't know for sure. No one does. But at least my theory is grounded in evidence instead of fantasy.

 

Which means you don't know at all.

Get real. Not only did you neither write the recipe nor cook the casserole, it came to you pre-masticated.

Then surely you won't have any problem citing evidence that any evolutionary process can yield the faculty of conscience - assuming, of course, that you even understand what conscience is, which most evolutionists don't.

 

And the eye just evolved…and the egg…so perfectly….and the solar system so mathematically aligned….all because of one big burst and bang….wholla…here we are.

How far fetched is that?

 

No more than you know, my friend. Your belief on in this is the same as mine in that some parts(in your case, many) must go on a certain amount of faith. I consider mine to be a factually based faith. There are still gaps, of course, which is why nobody may ever know what happened. Or maybe someday science and technology will allow us to figure it out. That's my bet, assuming we don't destroy ourselves first.

Shut the front door, you're right! Just my luck to be born about 80 years too late.

[/quote]Then surely you won't have any problem citing evidence that any evolutionary process can yield the faculty of conscience - assuming, of course, that you even understand what conscience is, which most evolutionists don't.[/QUOTE]

Conscience? I'm assuming you mean the ability to tell right from wrong? Knowing what is "good" and what is "evil"?

If I could cite evidence of the entire chain of evolution that led us from what we started as to what we are now, it wouldn't be a theory anymore, and religion would be extinct. Obviously I can't and you know that. As I sad, there are gaps, but it's a basis, with some of the blanks filled in by real evidence, which shows patterns from which you can deduce most of, if not all of, the course of evolution. Plate tectonics will have caused much of early Earth to have been destroyed, at least any fossil records that may tell us about early life, so at this point, some of it must be taken on faith.

 

Not perfectly at all. Human vision is pretty limited when you consider the entire spectrum of light, not just what we can see with our own eyes. And the solar system has not been "aligned", it is the way it is because of physics. It's one of trillions of solar systems in the universe. You have absolutely no basis to say whether our solar system is "perfect" or not, because you've only ever known one. You need to view the Hubble Deep Field and an explanation on what it is.

 

You presume...

...too much.

Problem is, it's based on all the facts which don't matter, and none of the facts which do matter.

Close enough for the time being.

Please, that's like a million orders of magnitude more than I asked for. Hell, last time I checked about a year ago, there wasn't even evidence of single-celled organisms evolving into multi-cellular, cell-differentiated organisms; and anyone with half a soul should understand that a transition from primate devoid of conscience to human being is unimaginably more improbable.

 

You are comparing a born child to a fetus. I would risk my life to save my born child but I would never risk my life just so a fetus could live.