women who get abortions over and over again

I'm wondering...is this story the typical multiple abortion woman? I tend to think so.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1035053/I-blanked-emotions-SEVEN-abortions.html

 

I doubt if it's even close to typical. Half of all women having abortions have had a previous one. Very few are going to have seven.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2006/11/21/or29.pdf

 

It is true that only about half of women who have abortions have had a previous one. But I would suspect nonetheless that the majority of abortions are still due to the "frequent fliers". In that sense, women who get multiple abortions are more typical.

Example: There are 10 women. 6 of them have only had 1 abortion. 1 of them has had 2 abortions. And 3 of them have had 4 abortions. So while it is true that the majority of the women in our hypothetical example have never had a prior abortion, it is also true that 60% of the total abortions are coming from women who have had 4 abortions. In other words, most of the abortion procedures are resulting from a small minority of women who are repeatedly getting abortions over and over again.

Focus on these "frequent fliers", and I think the number of abortions performed every year could be cut dramatically.

 

Interesting, in Anders terminology a man is reduced to being called a penis, as in 'any penis that happens to come along'. A man is a penis, you heard that from Anders. No, there's no embodied man involved in any of it... just a penis that happens to come along... all by itself... Well, that is a fine way to absolve and make men invisible in their part of a woman becoming pregnant. They're just a penis, that's all. No responsibility, no conscience... a disembodied thing not held to account. They just happen to come along... bobbing along the road all by themselves...

 

First in case you missed it , abortion is legal.

And what do you mean by "focus" on these "frequent fliers" ? Put their photos up at the Post Office? Make them register?

Or , YOUR favorite thing, shove sandpaper up their vaginas.....

 

Oh yes, your pro-life hero Ronald Reagan who signed the Therapeutic Abortion Act in 1967 which led to about 2 million abortions being performed as a result. Oh me, oh my! How pro-life of him!

Why don't we ignore the man's opinion for a moment, because really, how many men do you know that will become pregnant in their lifetime? Ha! And take a look at this factoid here. Every first lady since Jacqueline Kennedy has been pro-choice. Wow, how about that? Even Nancy Reagan!

 

But if Bloomberg tells Anti-Choicers not to have aBigBlubberSuperSize soda because it'll eventually kill you or Michelle says you should eat vegetables and get active so you'll be healthy...what's their reaction?

I bet it sounds something like , "You can't tell me what to do about my health, you facist commie muslims!"

 

Chronic abortions and choosing a super size drink are not the same thing. One scrapes your uterus over and over and the other is drink.

A more apt comparison would be the person who has stomach resizing every year or so, or the people who constantly have liposuction. The hardship on the body is obvious---but the mental stability of such a person is suspect. Its nothing to celebrate, and one should be concerned about the person using a medical procedure on an ongoing basis to turn back a consequence due to a personality or emotional problem. Chronic abortion is NOT a healthy place to be--mentally or physically.

 

I wasn't comparing seriousness of medical problems between being a soda sucking fat slob and someone who has abortions (although Fatslobdom causes many serious illnesses)

I was pointing out how Anti-Choicers pretend concern over somone else's health but scream bloody murder if someone dares try to tell THEM to take care of their health....see, that's being a hypocrite and is very dishonest...

 

Should a doctor do liposuction on a woman every month as she gains weight? Should a doctor choose to do a stomach resizing every year?

Are there any ethical considerations? Should we be concerned? Frankly...even the pro-abortionists quoted earlier had concerns. You don't? Call me dishonest for caring. It must be easier for you to just not give a darn. Compassion doesn't come easy for those that just want to kill life anyway.

I'm against abortion. I think its killing life. But I'm not arguing that right now. I'm saying....chronic abortion is bad...bad for women. I think its a sign that a woman has emotional, mental issues and that continuing hurts her physically and mentally. You can't seem to admit to that. Pro-abortion people just want to sweep it under the run and don't seem to care or discuss. So compassion for women only goes as far as it fits an agenda.

 

""""Should a doctor do liposuction on a woman every month as she gains weight? """"


Should a doctor do liposuction on a MAN every month as he gains weight.....why didn't you ask that?


Are you campaigning to have multiple liposuctions restricted?

Are you every woman's doctor?

Do you have delusions of grandeur that make you feel you should control EVERYone's health...or just women's.

Why do you ASSume women are stupid and need YOUR help?

 

Am I campaigning for Government Control over liposuction and stomach resizing?? No. Am I saying that people and doctors should act ethically and in the best interests of others? Yes. And I'm not seeing that from your posts. Its not even an abortion issue for me right now. At least abortionists are seeing a need to have these women see counselors. But you scoff at the thought of assuming they need help.

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No, I scoff at YOUR idea that all women need YOUR aid when it comes to their medical issues but you don't want anyone butting into YOUR private affairs...

 

Abortion is a life issue. That is why it is controversal. I'm not even discussing that right now.

I'm saying that you show no compassion. That's all. I'm saying...that the people doing the abortions show more concern then you about these women who obviously have problems. But you are what you are.

 

And YOU are off topic discussing a poster not the post which is against the PF policy.

Did it EVER occur to you that I have no interest in what YOU think of me..????


AND no, that wasn't all you were posting about but now that you are backed up against a wall you are trying to slither away.

Otherwise you'd be able to tell me why your only health concern is WOMEN and their private medical procedures.

 

I believe its also important to worry about women who have something like an abortion done multiple times over and over. Its not right, healthy, and its probably causing a lot of trouble for them. They need help I think. Its not that I am anti women in anyway either. Every human at many times in their lives needs help from another human, sometimes they are from the opposite sex. I don't see how this is a problem. This doesn't portray horrible weakness or anything, its just natural. Heck even the "private medical procedures" are often preformed by someone of the opposite sex, and those doctors who are doing operations to save lives obviously have great amounts of concern for their patients, should their aid and opinion not matter? People just that are other people, they have opinions and thus those opinions can help. This is about taking lives and or causing physical damage to yourself due to possible problems (in the case of those who have many abortions. So there is a lot of reason that this matters. Perhaps it is about controlling what women can do, but controlling a man with a gun isn't wrong is it? Controlling a man with how he uses any force isn't wrong is it? Its not a sexual discrimination thing, if a man were killing little people unable to even fight back I would want him stopped to.

 

I have no idea what a man shooting "little people" has to do with abortion....it has NOTHING to do with abortion...

But , yup, lots of PEOPLE need help but that isn't what Anti-Choicers are about...they're about trying to control what WOMEN do...

 

Uh, why SHOULDN't women be allowed to have sex with anyone they feel like?

Your post reveals to true nature of your position - it's about controlling women. You want everyone to live in a horrible socially conservative world.

 

I have the same amount of regard for a fetus as you do for a mixed race newborn or one with DS

 

When a man pulls the trigger on a gun, he controls his body. He takes that gun and pulls the trigger and kills someone. Its his finger pulling the trigger. That is a fact you will not face. All people are be controlled for the good of another and others, in defense of those peoples rights. Yes it is about controlling what women do I. Just as having laws against killing someone with a gun is controlling what a man or a woman does. Its about saving lives, and holding dear the right to life.

 

And that still has nothing to do with abortion, a legal medical procedure.

 

Adding to this, is there really much difference between prevention of pregnancy, killing a fertilised egg and killing an embryo or fetus? In the end, no. It's not the same as killing an adult or a child.

 

One major problem among anti-choicers is a gross oversimplification of the concept of "life" as it pertains to human embryos. Even your spermata and a woman's egg are technically life, even before they merge to create a new potential human being. We kill other life all the time, including our own sex cells. Many die naturally before they ever even grow into something resembling a baby...

Also, infant mortality (as well as that of mothers) used to be ridiculously high before modern medicine. We've come a long way in keeping people alive and healthy, yet society has also progressed in other ways. We can't generally afford a family of 9 children anymore - children tend to mean welfare these days, in fact, as they often mean missing work for extended periods and considerably more necessary household purchases. Abortion is not only a life- & health-preserving medical procedure, but it is often the most responsible economic & personal choice a woman can make in a number of situations. It is and ought to be a woman's choice. Without that, women are more like how they're depicted in the bible - as inferior to men, as second class, as handicapped and cursed. We men have things a lot (and I mean a LOT) easier where kids are concerned.

 

Oh finally an argument that doesn't involve petty insults.

The right to life is about human life, that is obvious stop generalizing it with just life. When someone purposefully kills a human being in the womb they strip the right to life away. Its not like killing a cell, the natural death of a cell, or a natural miscarriage ect. Its the direct action of killing in the womb.

As I have mentioned before, I know how much children mean when it comes to cost and the constant care and work. I have referenced how hard I know it is for my mom. Heck just this past week she had pneumonia while the rest of us children (5) came down with the flu, and she was still a working woman (cept two days where she was in bed all day) or when she went to the hospital when my little bro got pnuemonia (after coming down with the flu a couple weeks ago and hasd to be hospitalized) and how darn worried she was. I know full well what children mean to a family in terms of money, work, and care. Please don't preach about it to me, it won't get you anywhere as a means to justify abortion. It doesn't.

Its not the woman's choice. The second party involved has no choice, no say at all. Life is a wonderful thing to live everyone has the right to live it to, and you would rather have a woman make the choice if someone should have it due to her personal preferences?

I dislike being told that I wish to degrade woman to being slaves. I also dislike your reference to the Bible in this manner, but that isn't for this thread. I do not want to take away women's rights, I am trying to uphold someone else's rights.

 

You want to uphold the rights of someone who doesn't even exist over someone who does exist...gee, not wacky at all

Yes, YOU want to take away women's rights to their own bodies, their free choice to have an abortion...