World Held Hostage by American Military Madness

You're so right, all 18 MM members of the federal government are committed to fascism. How did you discover this, did you poll them all? Read their last 100 emails each? Search their facebook posts? Sift through the little post-it notes in their wallets?

Or, in keeping with your hilarious generalizations, determine they were all born after 1920 and coffee drinkers, so that makes them anti-freedom?

 

How many countries had russian troops and a russian puppet government after world war 2 for decades? 20 or more?

How many innocent japanese did the north koreans kidnap off of japanese soil? How many millions of civilians have they starved to death while the kim family lives in luxury?

 

My avatar is an American flag. But it's from a time when this country still had a love of liberty and republicanism. Now it's just a bloody empire full of authoritarian bootlicks and apologists for imperialism.

 

How's that?

 

If the alternative is a war that at BEST will kill several million citizens of one of our staunchest allies and carries a very real and substantial possibility of escalating to be a conflict that will destroy all known life then yeh, no question.

We accepted the danger of a very hostile and much more powerful country than North Korea having ICBM's for several decades because the alternative was unthinkable. In fact, I believe we still do, and from two countries now, though they are no longer as hostile as they were

 

Unfortunately, that description fits trump as if it were tailored for him. We have a sicko driving our nightmaremobile.

 

I don't know about that. Bush stood up on the world stage and called out NK as one of the "Axis of Evil" and the proceeded to attack another country on that list.

The Gov't refuses to even talk to NK.

On a related note - while NK was developing nuclear technology - Bush went after Iraq which was not even in the same league in terms of being a threat to the US homeland. Iraq at the time had it's airspace under US/NATO control and weapons inspectors running all over the country. And he still attacked - on the basis of demonstrably false narratives and misrepresentation.

Given that having nukes have proven to be biggest deterrent against attack from enemy nation states the world has ever seen - I would say that defending against such an imminent threat had at least a little to do with it.

Regardless - we had the chance to go after NK while they were developing the bomb and we did nothing. That they now have the bomb - such that attacking them has the likelihood of wiping out South Korea - it is way late in the game.


It was US/NATO's poor stewardship of nuclear technology that lead to this mess. That South Africa and Israel were "given" nukes is testament to this.

Pakistan (a nation full of Islamist's) is a far greater threat than NK in my books. Again it was NATO's poor stewardship that led to Pakistan getting the bomb - A Pakistani national Abdul Qadeer Khan was allowed access to nuclear secrets in France. He then took those secrets back to Pakistan - and shared them with Iraq, Iran and North Korea.

Perhaps it is time to let the "Adults" in the room handle this one - Russia/China.

 

Let's see, you trash Ethereal's debating skills. Then you post a message that does nothing but hurl partisan insults at half the population simply because they dare to have opinions that disagree with yours? Your post brings your own "debating skills" into question. Just sayin'...Pot meet Kettle.

 

And look what happens every time dictators are deposed - the countries implode? There is a need for dictators in the Middle East, so leave Assad alone - let's not fcuk up yet again??

 

You mean Kim Jong-un and family, rather than the whole country?

We don't have a replacement worked out. Nor can we work one out with the level of thought controls he has...

 

Say what we like about NK but they sure know how to put on a good show - the choreography, from the military displays to the vast range of entertainments, are absolutely faultless.

 

They have a long way to go before they catch up to the king of aggressive, violent behavior, the US government.

 

The Iraq war was a war of aggression based on lies and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis died as a result. No amount of lame apologia is going to change that.

 

There are good people in the US government. I met some of them while I was a Marine. But the US government as an institution is authoritarian and imperialistic.

 

That's right. Change the subject. Anything to distract people from your blatant double standards and hypocrisy. We wouldn't want to remind people about the millions of dead the US government has produced in countries across the globe.

 

Not only do they kill and maim millions of foreigners in wars of aggression, but they oppress and exploit the millions of Americans living under their rule. They steal our money and hand it over to their cronies; they spy on our private electronic communications in violation of our constitutional rights; they impose onerous regulations on our economic liberties, mostly as a way of benefiting their cronies; they arrest and imprison millions of nonviolent drug and sex offenders; I mean, how much time you got?

 

Are you claiming that arab muslims are subhumans, incapable of democracy?

 

Sure they do, because america starves 2 million to death every week, and sinks another country's ships daily murdering 50 sailors each instance, and sells nuclear tech to rogue terror states like iran. Do you live in north korea? You probably should.

 

IRC there were 18 national intelligence agencies who also suspected iraq had WMD, so pretending that the US "knew for sure" one way or other is false. For the record I was against the iraq war - but was/am VERY MUCH FOR a war to de-capitate the iranian regime.

 

"Millions of dead..." Prove it, your numbers appear to be as fabricated as putin's.

 

Libya has ALWAYS had gold dinars.. and NO they didn't want to be paid in gold.. Gold is a pain to transport and the interest is always running with time. Libya IMPORTS 90% of its food so they didn't want to pay for it in gold either.

Dump that conspiracy theory. Its for the birds.

 

And you fail to describe what country in the world will bring freedom to all others. Tell us how you think Russia, Iran, China, or N Korea will be the ones to guarantee freedom for all. They're such upstanding role models.

 

That's his usual.....dis Trump. Name call Trump. Blame Trump. Even blame Trump for the future.

 

Don't mind him. He's just hates freedom.

 

Nah, he was going by what Finian Cunningham wrote for Information Clearing House. Finian should have stuck with Publisher's Clearing House. This way he could win a home or 5k a week for the rest of his life.


All major powers in the Pacific region – including Russia and China – are calling for a negotiated solution to the tinderbox tensions over the Korean Peninsula. But the only power that is refusing to open dialogue is Washington.....snip~



DIPLOMACY
In June, Trump called for dialogue with North Korea and suggested a talk with Kim over a hamburger.


If only talking with the secretive, hereditary rulers in Pyongyang were so simple. No sitting U.S. president has ever done so.


Diplomacy with the North is a delicate dance and agreements have proved temporary.

Three U.S. administrations, going back to President Bill Clinton, have persuaded the North to disarm in exchange for aid. Each effort eventually failed, and there is deep skepticism in Congress about trying again.

A 1994 deal would have given North Korea nuclear power reactors and normalized ties with Washington. North Korea's plutonium production paused for several years. But after it emerged the North also was seeking to use uranium for weapons, the arrangement collapsed.

Six-nation nuclear negotiations hosted by China have been on ice since North Korea withdrew in 2009.....snip~

https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...slim-nkorea-options-diplomacy-sanctions-force