World Tribune Reporting Forensics Confirm Obama's Birth Certificate A 100% Forgery

I have answered you up page.

 

does anyone honestly give a damn? everytime i see a thread like this i think 'Crybabies', oh boo-hoo obama's certificate was forged... i don't remember anyone trying to find information on the other presidents' births. and it's not like you're gonna do anything about it!

 

What is laughable about his report? Be specific.

 

Holy (*)(*)(*)(*), this is still going on?

For christ sake's you birther loonies, give it a rest and shut up. No one's buying this stupid crap and it's only serving to make Tea Partiers look like tinfoil-hat wearing nutjobs. It's over, Obama was born in the U.S.A. and that is cold hard truth. Anyone who denies that really needs a slap to the head and a spanking.

 

Again...
One need only question the oddity of B.O.'s ties to both Kenya and Indonesia

Born to a Kenyan father, by law, B.O. automatically became a Kenyan/UK citizen. When he was later adopted by Mr.Soetoro he became a citizen of Indonesia. By Indonesian law, B.O. should have been an Indonesian citizen (IF) and/or (WHEN) he became a student within their Islamic school system.

This gives B.O. the possibility of being a citizen three times over. Shall we overlook the fact that this should have not been allowed or do we simply ignore the CONSTITUTION AS B.O. has done repeatedly during BOTH terms.

Is it any wonder that B.O. talks about being a citizen of the world?! We have such weak leadership, anything and everything goes and I'm afraid that we have gone down the tubes.

 

By everyone you mean a few deluded and gullible Birthers.

President Obama asked Hawaii to send certified copies of his original birth certificate to him.

He showed those to reporters- those two original certified copies were passed around and the reporters handled them- and reported on it.

One reporter took a photo of them

Images of those certified copies were published on line.

The State of Hawaii confirmed that what was published online was what they had sent to the President.

The only ones who still believe this forgery nonsense are those too gullible to believe anything else.

 

What is odd? His father was born in another country- like many of our citizens. He lived briefly in Indonesia- you know like John Quincy Adams lived briefly in Russia.

And he automatically lost that citizenship at 21 when he didn't register as a citizen.

He was never adopted by Mr. Soetoro and never became an Indonesian citizen. How do we know this? From State Department records.

Barack Obama went to both a Catholic school and an Indonesian public school. Neither required that he be an Indonesian citizen.

By Indonesian law, Obama could not have been adopted- because he was a year too old to be adopted and get Indonesian citizenship.

And? There is absolutely no evidence that President Obama holds any citizenship other than American but again- And? There is nothing illegal for an American to have more than one citizenship.

What should not have been allowed?

Barack Obama is a natural born citizen. He was born in Hawaii, he was over 35 years of age, and satisfied the residency requirements- that is what the Constitution requires. He was elected through our Democratic system twice.

And some people just still cannot accept that.

Birthers do make me really wonder about the educational standards of our country.

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How can anyone know? The only one saying it even exists or that he has read it is Zullo.

And Zullo hasn't been very truthful.

What I find laughable is that anyone believes what this used car salesman says about this alleged report.

 

I noticed you never answered with any specifics about Mike Zullo's credentials.

a) Is Mike Zullo a law enforcement officer?
b) Does Mike Zullo have any official rank?
c) Does Mike Zullo have any actual experience as a paid law enforcement officer- and if so- when and for how many years?
d) Did Mike Zullo sign a book deal with a Birther before he began this alleged investigation?

 

Man, that sure looks legit. Here's hoping something comes of it...

 

But here is where the whole Birther narrative always breaks down. Well one of the myriad of places it breaks down.

Lets assume for the slightest moment that what you have claimed is true- lets assume that in some Bizarro world that Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

Now- does his mother know that he wouldn't be a citizen at birth? Was this 18 year old girl- who travelled by herself from the U.S. to a third world country at the tail end of civil war to give birth- would she know whether her baby was an American or not?

Lets assume that she came to the same conclusion you did. How did she get her baby back to America? On what passport? Or do you think that she just stuffed baby Barack in a knapsack and smuggled him in?

Because as the baby of an American- she could have gone to any American consulate and gotten him papers and gotten him citizenship easily.

Why would she go to the effort of any kind of fraud just so baby Barack would be considered a natural born citizen?

Do you really think that she was thinking that she needed to ensure that her son would be eligible to be President?

Seriously?

Birthers.....lol

 

The World Tribune is just reporting its interview with Mike Zullo- the same info form his press release, the same info you have been flogging.

This is not news- this is just the usual suspects saying the usual things.

Mike Zullo- doing press conferences rather than showing any actual evidence.

 

John Q Adams was not a Russian Citizen....EVER. But then again, the idiots of the left tried to make the same general comparison with McCain.

And he automatically lost that citizenship at 21 when he didn't register as a citizen.

*21 was a cut off age BUT I didn't simply mention one country....there is the Kenyan father at issue and the UK had laws regarding that mentioned issue.




He was never adopted by Mr. Soetoro and never became an Indonesian citizen. How do we know this? From State Department records.

*No...REALLY? I suppose they simply used another means of fraud to get B.O. in school but I don't see anything of value in your rebuttle that is any different than the evidence I've presented and the ridiculous form that is like NO other Birth Certificate I've ever seen is of value and significant oddity.



Neither required that he be an Indonesian citizen.

* I simply believe you are mistaken here....perhaps fraud got him in school just as fraud and fear of saying anything about or questioning a black man have silenced our so-called leaders in making this "odd" situation an issue. What of the College records....Again, ODD, Odd, odd.....



And? There is absolutely no evidence that President Obama holds any citizenship other than American but again- And? There is nothing illegal for an American to have more than one citizenship.

*Agreed....BUT, there is issue with a PRESIDENT having anything other than an American Citizenry. WoW!




Barack Obama is a natural born citizen. He was born in Hawaii......

*So says the very odd bc.

And some people just still cannot accept that..
*and those with small minds question nothing. I believe all should question the oddities and if you can't see them, then we are truly in a mess (a mess which gave us a very Bad Odor with B.O.)





Birthers do make me really wonder about the educational standards of our country.

*As do those who would vote away their freedoms.....I question our liberal indoctrination because it is anything but learning.

 

How do you explain that the state of Hawaii confirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii? I honestly think this is all just an attempt to delegitimize Obama because he is black.

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How do you explain that the state of Hawaii confirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii? I honestly think this is all just an attempt to delegitimize Obama because he is black.

 

Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, moving to Indonesia with his mother did not invalidate his naturalized citizenship in the US. It doesn't matter that Obama's father was Kenyan, there is no law that says he being born to a Kenyan made him a Kenyan citizen.

 

No you didn't. Lets try again.......

The bolded portions are what you keep running from

 

No. King Obama, Fascist and Traitor and Forger, twice presented the proof of his forgeries.

Damn, you gotta wonder at the disdain he holds you people in when you step up and defend (*)(*)(*)(*)ty art like that. If that was money and you were trying to buy coffee and a donut, you'd go hungry, that's how obvious those forgeries are.

 

Why the Dept would forge one for him? To make him appear legitimate or to cover up what is actually on the original, if there is an original. Cover-ups in government departments happen all the time.

Who is Mike Zullo? I answered you already. I stated he is the head of Sheriff Arpaio's Maricopa County Sheriff's Office Cold Case Posse.

 

UK law does dictate that and whether or (IF) he had ANY other citizenship (ANYWHERE) other than the USA, it would/should disqualify him. That is what's wrong with America....nothing matters any more.

 

That's the proof?

Do all Republicans think like you, or do you have a special gift?

 

You keep dodging the gaping flaw in your argument. The department of health issues BC's. by definition it can not be a forgery.

And you referred to zullo as Lt. Zullo. No such person exists

 

UK or indonesian citizenship laws have no effect on US law. He did not lose his citizenship in indonesia.

A person can have more than one citizenship and be eligible. We've had several presidents with more than one.

 

And Barack Obama was not an Indonesian citizen- EVER. But then again idiot Birthers have promoted that lie for 5 years now.

What issue? Seriously- you keep making vague insinuations- what is the issue that you find problematic- and how does it affect eligibility.

"the evidence I've presented"

You haven't presented any evidence. You have presented the usual litany of Birthers insinuations, speculation and wierd claims.

If Barack Obama's birth certificate is not like any other that you have seen, well then that is merely evidence of your ignorance, not of any issue with Barack Obama's BC.

I will repeat again what the Hawaiian Department of Health has said consistantly:

HONOLULU – The Hawai„i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.
“We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf

Well I think you are mistaken. Since you brought up race- can you name the race of the only President ever asked to show his birth certificate- and then be told it wasn't real- even when the department which issued it confirmed it was authentic?

What of the College records? Barack Obama followed in the tradition of all previous Presidential candidates and declined to show voters his college records- a tradition which Mitt Romney followed.

So why do you think that only the black man needs to show us his college records- since again your brought up his race.

What is the issue then? Barack Obama is not the first or only President who was born with more than one citizenship. However from age 21 on, Barack Obama has been solely an American citizen.

So says very odd Birthers- the State of Hawaii says:

In June 2008, President Obama released his Certification of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “short form” birth certificate. Both documents are legally sufficient evidence of birth in the State of Hawai„i, and both provide the same fundamental information: President Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawai„i at 7:24 p.m. on August 4, 1961, to mother Stanley Ann Dunham and father Barack Hussein
Obama.

Conspiracy theorists always question any 'oddity'- they live for anything that doesn't make sense to them.

But I have far, far more evidence that Barack Obama was legally eligible to be President, than I have ever had for any other President.

I think all Presidential candidates should be treated equally when it comes to determining eligiblity.

Birthers think that Barack Obama should be treated differently.

Why? Well we know why.

 

Or we can go what the real experts say, rather than Birther idiocy:

HONOLULU – The Hawai„i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.
“We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai„i.”

In June 2008, President Obama released his Certification of Live Birth, which is
sometimes referred to in the media as a “short form” birth certificate. Both documents
are legally sufficient evidence of birth in the State of Hawai„i, and both provide the
same fundamental information: President Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawai„i at 7:24
p.m. on August 4, 1961, to mother Stanley Ann Dunham and father Barack Hussein
Obama.
In 2001, the Hawai„i State Department of Health began computer-generating vital
statistics records. Since then, its longstanding policy and practice has been to issue and
provide only the computer-generated Certifications of Live Birth, and to not produce
photocopies of actual records to fulfill requests for certified copies of certificates.
Director Fuddy made an exception for President Obama by issuing copies of the original
birth certificate. The departmental policy to issue only computer-generated
Certifications of Live Birth remains in effect for all birth records that have been
computerized. Director Fuddy, in her capacity as Health Director, has the legal
authority to approve the process by which copies of birth records are made.

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf

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So you think UK law is what is wrong with America?

How very odd.

 

A 22 month investigation by the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office Cold Case Posse shows otherwise pertaining to the document released in the WH press conference in April of 2011. Their evidence is backed by court recognized forensic computer generated handwriting and document independent expert Reed Hayes from Hawaii with a 40 page evidence report that is now in the hands of Sheriff Arpaio's Sheriff's Office.

 

Well that is what Mike Zullo is telling everyone isn't it.

Of course there is no evidence that anything that Mike Zullo has said is true.

Looking forward to the 'big reveal' on Wednesday.

LOL