World War 3 is already underway

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  1. MurkyFogsFutureLogs

    MurkyFogsFutureLogs New Member

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    Greetings.

    World war 3 is already underway. Infact it's been underway since the start of the Cold War.

    The Cold War was not about democratic or communist hegimon, no it was about what's always been about, resources and currency control.

    This war has had NATO and some close non-NATO members together pitting themselves against the majority of the rapidly developing states.

    This war has manifest itself time over in the numerous battles that've occurred in the "name" and name alone of Freedom and Democracy, and as of more recently, in the "name" of humanitarian ideals.

    And so it goes on. All the wars we've seen over the past 113 years have been mainly about three main objectives.

    One control - Two resources - Three economic advantage.

    All modern empires and aspiring empires need these three objectives in their belt to maintain global hegemony. Control over their people. Resources to maintain growth, military advantage and economic lubrication. Economic advantage to enable the empire to manipulate international economies by encouraging use of its currency to maintain leverage over global trade while steadily feeding the military industrial complex to then reverse trend and enforce control, take resources and maintain economic advantage.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar_warfare

    It doesn't matter that the soviet union has collapsed, what matters is that Russia is growing, Russia is still a global adversary even if not considered a Superpower by some. Alone it can be argued Russia has its hands tied, its military is inferior to the U.S, and certainly the NATO states combined on which it would find opposing militarily if words turn to missiles. Yet it's become ever more apparent that Russia has found itself aligning with many of the developing nations, and more so than merely for trade but on a political basis too. Russia knows that the economic war which is only one spectrum of this third world war, is the key to collapsing the ever desperate NATO and friends states whom in their desperation, involve themselves in ever shadier ploys and proxy warefare. Nato and friends do this in an attempt to ascertain their geopolitical objectives before the economic fuse burns down to the stick, which as the months go by gets ever shorter.

    Saudi-Arabia needs the petrodollar as much as the United States does, it's in both their interests to maintain the status quo of U.S/Saudi hegemon in the Middle-East. To do this, the U.S has found a willing ally, a rogue state that goes by the name of Israel. Israel is the bulldog of the NATO and friends states. It's the hypocrite, the provocateur, the real global threat in terms of military and undeclared weapons of mass destruction, capable of being fired off the coast of any city at least.

    Of course a part of the control network is the media, it normalises what our government purports to be prudent action, that being the invading of sovereign states based on dossiers of lies. It normalises funding rebels and extremists abroad. It normalises being lied to by those we elect only to encourage us to re-elect them on more lies and then do the same another 4-5 years later. It normalises violence on TV and doesn't question anything that supports government conduct and action but opposes most criticism of the same.

    Here's a video of the Taliban in the 80's, setting about to take on the might of the crumbling soviet empire. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=84f_1186136960

    And one of Afghans in the ongoing unwinnable conflict in today's "War against the taliban". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uj6sRlzgik

    The resemblence of what has been, what our nations or our allies and "friends", funded armed and encouraged to overthrow the soviets, are strikingly similar to the Taliban we fight today.

    The above wiki article states that they were largly funded by Saudi-Arabia to overthrow Russia. Of couse the U.S denies its involvement through the CIA but the U.S, but why should any sane person trust a government that has continued to lie and break promises year after year, decade after decade?

    The striking similarities between Saudi-Arabia backing terrorists back then, and doing so now. The striking similarities between our governments being involved with the terrorists back then as in today. The striking similarities that as in the past any battle fought in the name of freedom and democracy and humanitarianism were nothing but inhumane, undemocratic and taking the will of the people from them by installing a puppet government to do our bidding. http://rt.com/news/mi6-financing-karzai-corruption-858/ < A blatant example of, we'll kill your people because they want to replace you as their leader, and we'll pay you while we do it, just so we can use your back yard as a military staging ground to strike future targets. There is evidence to support this hypothesis, as there is no strategic benefit to the occupation in Afghanistan other than to frogleap at future targets. Self-Radicalised, home-made terrorirsts pose a much larger threat than any Afghan goat herder, our government knows it and so does the Karzai regime.

    The oil and gas in the middle-east is very important to the developing nations, and as the developing nations such as China, India, Brazil and others become wealthier, on real wealth not pure debt, they pose an ever greater danger to the Amercian petrodollar, this is merely another aspect of the economic warfare, as it's not the developing nations going to war, rather, simply growing from the green shoots of unadulterated corporate greed fueled by globalism. They feed off of our failings and we fail further as they do, our governments only make decisions that harm us economically in the long run and don't strengthen or renew our economies. Without a strong economy there will be no way we can support our armed forces and if we can't support our armed forces the control element, the main objective of the three mentioned above is significantly weakened. This ongoing third worldwar, which has included tens maybe even hundreds of wars within itself which have included thousands of battles and hundreds of millions dead, is to ensure control is maintained, the resources under phumb and the economy is dominant. For if either of these three key factors in maintaining the Western empire were to severely weaken, it would seriously threaten the foundations of the two other factors which threatens the stability of the Empire itself, and the elite that run it.

    The foundations of the Western Empire and their NATO and friends armed forces are on the table and the cards are being played, and it's now in our lifetimes that we'll finally see our polticians, our rulers and elite go all in, and when they do.. We'll have to count ourselves in too as we can't escape their failings and a misery it will be too. The more desperate they get the more they'll throw in, until it's us that's left to be thrown in before them. The Western empire is failing from outside and its failing within, the military option is the only way it has to attempt to win, but win it wont for killing people abroad won't help at home and when the killing at home starts aswell, home and abroad will be a manmade hell.

    As our nations run toward the end of the road, there's only one way left to go and that's down, and in blood tears the land of this earth will be drown, because another direction to choose than the way we're headed has not been found.
     
  2. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    So what is the average Joe supposed to do about that complex web of international affairs?
     
  3. MurkyFogsFutureLogs

    MurkyFogsFutureLogs New Member

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    I'd like so believe we can vote our way out of this, vote for parties who have not yet proven themselves and possibly find a competent government. However this option isn't apliccable to some Western countries and even if it is in some, the chances of alternate political parties to run the country are very slim as either the voting system itself is rigged for the two largest parties or indeed many of the voting public are just happy to be fooled and lied to over and over and over again.

    What's more likely to happen rather than something being done about it, is that as I mentioned above, the fuse of the dynamite stick burns shorter. When the fuse is burnt out the stick will explode and by then the war will have escalated to a point in which there is no return and I believe this is the likeliest of future circumstances.

    This war is already being fought through economic activities, cyber activities, proxy activities and direct military intervention.. The wars within this war seem endless and that's because the wars within the wars were never the overriding objective just a milestone along a bloody path setout by the financial and political elite. Most of us won't realise the nature of this third world war because our governments propaganda is in full overdrive, it's not only towing the government and NATO perspective through its biased media coverage, it's also normalising everything that's occurring. It's normal for there to be violence in the middle-east, it's normal for there to be dictators being overthrown by extremists, it's normal for us to intervene citing humanitarian notions, it's normal so we should all accept it and not question it or oppose our governments involvement in it. Well that's what they'd like anyway. More and more people are asking questions and challenging our governments narrative, yet I don't think there's enough people openly doing so and therefore this war will continue until the fuse burns to the stick and we're all in deeper poop, and armchair politicians and keyboard warriors will lose their voice, as we all lose the internet in the name of national security.
     
  4. Anders Hoveland

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    The root causes of the second world war were unpayable debts, and high unemployment.

    We can also not ignore all the immigration into germany that led to growing ethnic resentment. Many of these immigrants were polish jews who had much higher fertility rates.

    We are seeing these same conditions play out all over again.
     

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