Would anyone on this forum volunteer to be aborted? If I could convince you that society would be better off without you, would you agree to do away with yourself? Some of you may be elderly, and living off a Social Security check and getting free healthcare through Medicare? Aren't you being an unnecessary burden on younger people, who are being taxed for your benefit? Some of you may be veterans, living off a pension check. Aren't you also being a burden on the taxpayers? Some of you may still live with your parents, who are barely getting by paycheck to paycheck. Wouldn't your parents be better off without the burden of feeding you and giving you a room to sleep in? Some of you may be unemployed. Wouldn't the taxpayers be better off if they didn't have to pay your unemployment check? Some of you may be on food stamps, SSI, disability, Section 8 housing, WIC, or any number of other government programs. Aren't you just being a burden on others? I can think of a lot of people, maybe more than half of us, who could volunteer to be aborted so that other people are better off. So how about it folks?
Imagine you were a little fetus again inside your mother's womb, and you had prior knowledge that your mother was planning on aborting you. What do you think you might do in this situation? Imagine there was a shank laying in there, inside the womb. What would you do...
I guess no pro-abort wants to step forward and volunteer. LOL They are too busy living. Isn't that ironic.
Taking it one step further....most these pro-aborts support late term abortion and infanticide. So couldn't suicide be considered as a way to abort yourself? How many here would do that to help solve societies problems?
Maybe women should kill themselves after they reach their "viability point" (when they have less than a 50% chance of survival).
Maybe you should stop urging women to commit suicide. It's not a joke. It's certainly not funny. Suicide is not a synonym for abortion. Abortion is not a synonym for murder.
Wow! Has to be the dumbest post you have made on this topic so far. FYI, the taxpayers do not pay the unemployment benefits unless they go over to the fedreal extension, the rest is paid by the employeer. And SSI or Disability is paid for by the person that is drawing the money. If you going to post threads at least get your facts straight.
Anybody that knows science and biology textbooks knows that abortion is murder. Science and biology textbooks clearly state that the fetus is a living human organism. Sperm and egg are not, according to science textbooks.
Anybody who can read a dictionary knows that abortion is not "murder." Remember that little word "illegal."
In some countries, abortion is illegal, therefore, your arguement is invalid. I am trying to argue that abortions should be illegal. What does the current status quo have to do with this? I am trying to argue why the status quo laws should be changed, using science (which clearly states that the fetus is a living human organism). Roe Vs. Wade is stupid and retarded because it denies what science textbooks teach. Lots of murders were legal throughout the course of history. Was the Holocaust not murder during the 1940s, just because it was legal?
Maybe you should stop urging women to dump their pregnancies. They're a lot more likely to commit suicide after getting an abortion, by the way. - - - Updated - - - Circular logic. "It should be legal because it is"
Then abortion is murder in those countries. It is not in this one. We weren't discussing whether abortions SHOULD be illegal, we were discussing whether they are MURDER, and according to definitions, they are clearly not. What the fetus is will not determine whether women choose abortion. Seven out of nine very educated and well-informed men decided RvW after much thought and deliberation. I fail to see why you think you are more clever than they. It was wrong, but it wasn't murder.
At least you're not a hypocrite. - - - Updated - - - Thank you Anders! You have a very good way of putting things into words (much better than me). Saying that abortions should be legal, just because abortion is supposedly not murder, just because it's currently legal, therefore it's not murder just because of what our current laws state, is a very invalid circular argument.
I am not in any way urging women to choose abortion. I am urging that the citizenry of this country continue to allow women to choose abortion legally. Because I know that women will choose abortion whether it is legal or not, and legal abortion is safer for women. You've been reading too many lifesite and lifenews propaganda pieces. That wasn't the argument. The argument is that you can't call it murder because it IS legal. Try to follow.
You don't urge women to have abortions, but you defend it and you also try to justify it. Some women that have abortions get very depressed, and depression can lead to suicide.
Got yourself banned huh? As much as the "pro-choice" crowd likes to demonize we, who are pro-life, as religious zealots, woman haters and terrorists....they forget....we defend them in the womb also...say for example the mothers of all the pro-choice people who like to argue with us on-line didnt want them? We are defending their lives...we wanted them to have a chance at life..we wanted them to live. I believe we would like to see people take responsibility for their behavior, and this includes taking sexual relations seriously. Abortion procedures are not rare, they are another form of birth control. There is an abortion somewhere in the United States going on every 22 seconds....40% of women seeking an abortion have already had one. It's not given a second thought any more....we're remindng people...that an abortion ends a life. You may think this life is nothing...it's just a bunch of cells...it can't think, it can't feel pain...it's easy to dismiss it. We value the life of the unborn that is taken away...that no one spoke up for..because some day we may need someone to speak up for us.
Studies show that very few women have depression as a result of abortion, but more women have depression after childbirth.
Yet you oppose universal healthcare. Isn't treating sick people, children defending their lives too? And that IS a good thing, but in your experience, what works better coercion or education? Thy not use proven methods to reduce abortion? Education, education, education.
And I am urging the people of your country to allow concerned citizenry to tie women up if they suspect them of seeking an abortion. Because I know that concerned citizenry will choose to STOP abortion whether it is legal or not, and making abortion illegal is safer for fetuses. Mod edit>>>lets not go there, facetious or otherwise. A pregnant woman is not a person. She is connected to someone else and is not an independent entity. Obviously I am being facetious here, but I hope you now realize how ridiculous your argument was. You completely ignored the fetus!
Defending someones right to have an abortion is not the same as saying go have one, of-course to some sex education being taught to teens equates to saying go have sex to some so I can see how it would be a confusing concept to some here. So they should go get help, it is available you know.
You are advocating kidnapping, false imprisonment, acts of terror and murder all of them major Felonies. Be careful what you advocate you CAN be held accountable. Nope, wrong again, she is still a person, you might want to read up on the laws before making such rediculous statements. Sure you are......................
Not people, doesn't matter. MY CHOICE !!! You will have to PROVE that they are people, and I don't think you'll be able to do that. Pregnant women lack sentience... and the ones wanting to get abortions are not entirely conscious either... It's not a felony if is legal, and I am advocating legalization. Choicers are all about punishment. That's right. Be careful...
Go down that road and they will deal with you, protest all you want but cross the line and that will be the end of you and your ability to fight for what you believe in, kinda defeats the purpose doesn't it.
If any of us were aborted, it wouldn't of mattered. The outcome would be no different than your parents choosing not to have sex. You simply wouldn't of existed and therefore would have been indifferent to being aborted.
