Would Britain be better off as a democratic republic?

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  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    :) Sir is good nuff ;)
     
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    Britain does not even have a Constitution, never has.
     
  3. Montegriffo

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    Bullshit.
    Britain has had a constitution since at least 1215 when King John put his seal on the Magna Carta.
    What we don't have is a single codified constitution.
    Our constitution is a mixture of convention, Acts of Parliament and law.
     
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    When did you receive your Knighthood Sir Butter?
     
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    When the last Brit(s) were on the last boat headed back to their KINGdom ;)
     
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  6. Montegriffo

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    Was that the same boat that sailed up the Potomac and set fire to the Whitehouse?
     
  7. ButterBalls

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    And even the people haven't clue what's it's about because it's so fragmented.

    Surely there must be something said for our founders and their Idea's and creation of a constitution and bill of rights then the nonsense they left behind ;)
     
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    A document so vague that it can be interpreted to mean whatever you want it to mean?
    Nah, that's not much of an improvement.
     
  9. ButterBalls

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    Oh geee, settle down :) Your own colonist booted their own out because is was so tyrannical.. As you can see, the fire really didn't change anything :)
     
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    That's just what you have, but your you's are the ones that convinced you that you are a commoner...
     
  11. Montegriffo

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    It stopped you from taking Canada.
    ''simply a matter of marching'' :roflol:

     
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    Oh bummer, Canada lol
     
  13. Montegriffo

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    Tried twice, failed twice.
     
  14. ButterBalls

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    Sok, but you and I know who butters their bread, right ;) Do you understand the concept of fodder, right ;)
     
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    No thank you. There are plenty of countries worldwide that follow the Westminster system or some other parliamentary system. Anyone who really wants to live under one should consider moving there.
     
  16. James7

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    In the UK we're not even citizens. We're subjects of the Queen.

    What does it mean to be a subject of the Queen?

     
  17. Montegriffo

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    Don't know what it says on your passport but mine says British Citizen.
    British subjects are those who are nationals of Commonwealth countries who have limited rights which do not include automatic rights to residency in the UK like British citizens have.
     
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    I don't think that is an accurate way of looking at it given any and all executive power the Prime Minister has is delegated from the monarch. In any executive decision the PM makes, they're essentially representing he monarch. In relation to anything really significant though, such as a formal declaration of war, it would be expected to come directly from the monarch.

    Again though, none of this really relates to the question of republicanism since a nation can still (and sometimes do) have issues with balancing executive power between a head of state, head or government and parliament regardless of their political structure.
     
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    Well, okay. It seems the terms British Subject and British Citizen are used interchangeably.
     
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    The head of state is the monarch and not the Prime Minister.

    Further the monarch has the power to sack a government, the Prime Minister and annul an Act of Parliament.
     
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    The Prime Minister and Parliament are meant to be representing the people and NOT the views of the monarch.
     
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    Well that's the official government website so I think I'll go with what they say.
    British subject and British citizen are clearly defined legal terms.
     
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    It is fuzzy and not all formally defined or written. Parliament certainly represents the people (or at least voters, which only relatively recently covered the majority of people) but the PM (and government in general) is appointed by the monarch. While they certainly don't blindly do whatever the monarch demands and in practice require the support of Parliament to continue in post, they do represent the nation in a more general form rather than just the (current) people.

    None of this contradicts what I've already said and doesn't change the fact that none of it really relates to the question of republicanism, certainly not in that changing to a republic would automatically and completely resolve any of these kinds of complications. Running a country has never been simple, regardless of how it is done.
     

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