Would You Support A U.S. Nuclear First Strike Against North Korea?

And what then? Chess is a nice game - that's all. Poker is also a nice game. The survival of all mankind is not a game. Oh by the way: Only the USA is convinced it has nothing to do to stabilize the situation of the current climate change. Do you not have the feeling the USA grew to become in general a little unreal? The world exists not in the thoughts or words of people. Something will happen if "you" will do senseless wars while you don't do sensible steps. I don't like to know what it is.

 

The easiest propaganda at that, given that all and any NK leader always belches out some dimwitted threat on a regular basis. Threats which no vaguely sane politician has ever taken seriously except to use as propaganda to stir up ugly sentiment, and thus five minutes later a whole slew of supposedly normal citizens go all out genocidal.

Just don't tell them that or you'll be included in the 'take the trash out' scenario, too, which is usually a good old laugh, until some puffed up, authoritarian fascist type grabs power and begins rounding up dissenters.

 

Ok.

 

^ Your message may well be the most hateful message towards the USA and Americans as has ever been posted on this this forum given your stance is that NK must be allowed to wreck death and destruction on the USA and/or our allies in response to the USA striking NK defensively.

 

The out of control juvenile tantrum of some Democrats is so irrational and so consumed with blind hatred that they literally want the USA and Americans destroyed punitively for not thinking as, voting as and doing what they want. We are increasingly seeing such messages on the forum.

 

The degree that China would act to defend its slave labor province of North Korea and/or their installed surrogate Kim Jung Un would be determined by what China calculates is in their own interests, not by their words.

 

Yes, you can be WRONG as often as you want:

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That's nuts.
Prove to someone how tough you are by proving you can duck their bullets, thus proving you are a pacifist for which there is no risk to anyone shooting at you.
I gather your purpose is to provide information to Kim Jung Un to assist China and his techs how to modify their missiles to better avoid our defenses in the future, correct?
Maybe we should just send NK, China and Russia blueprints of our defensive systems.

 

I'd pointed all this out. Apparently it doesn't matter to the member.

 

no message: technical problem

 

Do you know what Hagåtña is? A powder, a mountain or a Red Indian tribe? Don't try to tell me the USA - specially Donald Trump - would not sell Guam if it would be in the interest of the USA to do so. It was by the way G.W.Bush who ignored the first steps to try to produce nuclear weapons of North Korea. He had to do a much more important disaster in the Iraq in those days.

 

It's completely unimportant for me why China said so. It stops the USA to say and/or to do nonsense. And that's good. Calm down. Hysteria is not politics.

 

No, it was Bill Clinton.

 

I tried that track with the member. They don't seem to understand/care.

 

Cold war was yesterday. Same with blueprints. I would not be astonished to find a better information about American strategies somewhere in Russia and China than in the white house. The situation is clear: We - the world - needs an international warrant of arrest - not made from a single state - and a situation where this warrant of arrest is executable. The tyrant Kim Jong-un disqualified himself morally with many deeds to be a leader of a nation. He's a threat for the world peace. It's in the responsibility of all states of the world to stop him.

 

That's all well & good. In a Star Trek universe it might be viable.

This is not a Star Trek universe.

 

Any preemptive strike on North Korea (nuclear or not) would trigger the Chinese to defend North Korea. I don't think there is any denying that the US has the ability to lay waste to North Korea, with overwhelming nuclear capability. But considering how unfavorable it was when we did it in Japan, and I might add that the US is so far the only one that has ever engaged in nuclear warfare in history, I don't think it would go over at all well within the international community. Almost every treaty ever signed regarding the non-use of chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons comes with the clause that others reserve the right to use such weapons if those weapons are first used by someone else. It would start a domino effect. That being said, the only reason we are even where we are today with North Korea is because prior administrations insisted on kicking the can down the road in denial that this day would ever arrive.

So now our hands are tied and we have no choice but to commit, but we do have a choice on who throws the first punch. Japan, South Korea, and Guam can all thank us for decades of incompetence, because in order for the US to avoid conflict with China, or Russia, a sacrifice must be made.

 

Maybe because the North Koreans would know the US nukes are on the way with plenty of time to launch everything they have and flee into bunkers that lead directly to South Korea. My guess it that North Korea has no nukes pointed at South Korea, just Guam and Japan. But the first thing North Korea would do is deploy it's navy and radio Russia, just like it did last year.

 

Let's not forget, once nuclear weapons are used by either side in this case, it will be a safe bet that other nuclear capable countries will follow.

 

Why would they waste valuable nuclear assets if the US has already completed the job? And If done correctly, NK will have nothing to retaliate with.

 

Where does all the radioactive fallout go, it doesn't respect borders? I would only support a nuclear strike if nukes were used on us or any ally. I do support a full fledged invasion after hitting North Korea with massive conventional missiles and bombs.

 

The bible said so - Immanuel Kant said so - and I say so - whether Mr. Spock said or will say so I don't know - ask Leonard Nimoy, if you can. But be sure whatever "it" is, "it" will not allow us to have the might and power to travel through the universe if we - all mankind - will stay to be murderous idiots.

 

Only to be sure: Do you think the world loves the USA and it will love the USA much more, if you will waste North Korea with nukes, so no one likes to produce nuclear weapons in this case any longer?



This is an example for a first strike by attacking the citizens of a country. And as far as I can see the most US-Americans agree that a first strike is morally correct. Do you feel yourself sometimes not a little more crazy than only crazy? A preemptive strike - you made it in the Iraq - is by the way the same as a first strike. You never found in the Iraq the weapons of mass disappearance.

 

Still I don't know how often you like to force me to say to you: "Guam is not a state of the United States - so it is not the USA". And please: Guam is 7000 miles far from the USA! To say the people in Florida should live in fear of nukes from North Korea - because Guam is USA and Florida is USA - is more than only stupid.

 

wtf are you talking about?

shooting down missiles is not ducking them. it's more like dunking on them. it says your missiles can't hit me but mine can hit you.....your move.


and no, i don't want to give them our technology. jesus christ what's wrong with you?