Wow do I hate marijuana.

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  1. Liberty Monkey

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    Also I would not be against supplemental lighting for northern growers in their greenhouses.

    If it was legal you could pimp the greenhouse for co2, dehumidification (Although Krusty reckoned high humidity was the key to high yields.), irrigation, pest control, etc.

    Natural spider mite preds are good too ;)

    Krusty used to use sulphur burners to control Botrytis (Bud rot).
     
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    Bud rot is a big issue for indica dominant strains here. Our season and weather is Sativa friendly. I think good organic potting mix and a quality time release with dolomite lime in containers, is key. Tomato pinworms and leaf miners and white flies are the major pest here.
     
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    And like guns, eh?
    Let's ban them all and then only the criminals will have guns and pot and booze.
    Yeah, MAGA.
     
  4. Liberty Monkey

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    Let's ban none of it, that way pot will not be a crime and we'll still have guns.

    I'm still all for MAGA but the criminalisation of pot did/does NOT MAGA.
     
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    I cant get on board legalizing drugs like PCP Coke and Heroin and that scourge of humanity...meth.
     
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    they call it weed, can't it pretty much grow anywhere?
     
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    I have no issue with natural plants being legal, but just like with alcohol, public intoxication is a crime.... if one is gonna use, use responsibly
     
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    Please tell that to the Cali's growers!

    Autoflowers are crosses of Ruderalis from Siberia where cannabis evolved to autoflower so it could actually grow in such a harsh environment. (earlier flowering)

    So yes it pretty much grows everywhere.

    Also legalise distillation in the USA for the moonshiners it's retarded that it's still criminalised.
     
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    Whether you like the studies or not or whether you believe them or not they are real and I have seen those same results in real life.
     
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    Not anymore since there has been for years an additive to feed that if I remember correctly either prevents the growth or poisons the mushrooms. I live on a lake across from cattle grazing land and used to see light roaming the pastures late at night gathering supplies. No longer.
     
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    While I agree- In making a comparison, the objective is to allow people to understand that there are two levels in the mind, and they working together- one in the background that they are unaware of, and one that they are consciously aware of and can alter- meaning thought.

    The term underlying code, generally embedded permanent content lacks a definitive name (rom?) that people can relate to. Within this are things that identify incoming data as simple as recognizing the string as a character or numeral or providing values for math functions. This content interprets the input, and tells the system what it is or means. It's what converts a sting of binaries into a recognizable value.

    Imagine that this embedded programing had errors, such as having the mathematical constant of Pi entered as as 3.41 instead of 3.14. All the usual programs would run normally, including calculations or projections which needed to use that constant- but while other things seem normal and correct, the processes using Pi would always generate incorrect answers, with no apparent error. The operator viewing the GUI would accept them as correct, but they would generate problems when used elsewhere.

    When this is going on in your mind- no matter how many times you verify in the conscious that you have taken the right steps, the output is faulty and the operator will not be able to realize it. Imagine if we all agreed that the 12-inch foot is set by the length of an actual foot- but everybody believed that their own foot was the benchmark. This is how fundamental value errors held in the subconscious create vast conflicts between people. That is what I am trying to illustrate.
     
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    Nope seeds do get into some strains by hermaphrodites. Plus there is still reggie around.
     
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    Well you certainly like to redirect a topic, well it was fun while the focused posters were playing :)
     
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    Well if you look it up there are only three primary stains Cannabis Sativa, Cannabis Indica or Cannabis Ruderalis that is hardly mentioned and never used. Indica and Sativa have been blended over the decades to produce hybrids. Sort of like a two pound tomato, cherry, yellow or a blood red tomato, different but still a tomato ;) But at the end of the day and under a microscope they will be classified as Indica or Sativa!
     
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    Load the damn bowl already..
     
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    I've been growing for over twenty years and I a glad that it will soon be legal to do so...I finally bought the LED lights...
     
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    I mean it can. But you're not going to get much dope or be very stoned.
    It takes serious work to make the modern high thc concentration weed.
     
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    My last joint was in 1972 so I'm not smoking the stuff. I believe it is close to being harmless while tobacco and alcohol are definitely not harmless.
     
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    Looks like your avatar got into some of your stash.
     
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    That's the look when the dog ate my blunt :)
     
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    Back in the day, marihuana was sold with leaves, seeds, sticks, stems, and flowers. Most of it was Mexican dirt weed. It wasn't really cultivated, at least like it is now. It used to be farmed like alfalfa. By the way, alfalfa's scientific name is Medicago sativa.

    At some point, it became known that marihuana, harvested just before the seeds could form, the high tended to be better. The theory was that seeds took all the energy and nutrients, out of the rest of the plant. Sinsemilla means sans seeds. Sinsemilla marihuana is female plants that have not been exposed to male plants, i.e. virgin plants. Most modern commercial plants are female clones.

    Sometime, maybe late 70s, Afghan pot began to come to America. Its difference was it was a lighter green and the seeds were considerably larger. It was called Indica because I think that is the name of the place it came from. Pre-bud pot, Afgahn, or Indica marihuana tended to be more potent than the Mexican, or stativa marihuana.

    Anyhow, cannabis originally came from the Middle East. The Mexican dirt weed was descended from commercial hemp, like what Jefferson and Washington grew. Jefferson even invented a device to break down hemp stalks, so that finer clothing could be made with it. He wrote of wearing suit coats made of hemp, made from the fibers his device produced.


    I know what you are trying to illustrate, but the analogy is not very good. A bios is part of the hardware. There are varibles like memory size, but the rest is unchangeable.

    It is common to hear those in the physical sciences, make fun of the social sciences using scientific and technical terms, in ways that are funny at times. I like the one where speakers will talk about taking a quantum leap by way of gradual change.

    Long ago, I came to the conclusion that the social sciences were too subjective for my taste. However, there has been a hard science look into the human mind. Whereas Socrates (Plato) insisted that people are born with intelligence, which can be developed. And Locke insisted that people were born with a blank slate. Turns out that it is somewhere in the middle. Quite a bit of one's personality is built in, and mostly unchangeable. Most shy people were born shy. Physically aggressive children are born that way. It even seems, where one falls along the political, intellectual, athletic, sexual, and other spectrums is determined in the womb.

    Children who have a high IQ and do well in school, do so not because of hard work, but because of better built in hardware. The opposite is true of those at the other end of the spectrum. Poor, dumb people are not necessarily lazy, as much as they are operating with defective hardware.


    It is why certain drugs help the mentally ill. They correct the chemical imbalances in a defective brain.

    The latest brain research that I have been reading, suggests that underlying our conscience is actually several competring brains, all vying for attention. There is the logical, emotional, sensual, housekeeping, and other parts coming together for a consensus. There is a lot of multitasking going on. It can be tracked in brain scans.

    It is why I think that the right to individualism should be greater than individual rights. We all are different because we are born different. Some are born to conform, some are not. It is not a behavior that can be changed, without force.
     
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    She said she smelled marijuana smoke. People don't burn it for incense
     
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    All true for the most part! I think the turning point from Sativa to the more potent Indica "For me and the Bay area" came from south America in the way of Columbian Red bud and Gold bud strains.. Granted they had tons of seed but the trichomes were so heavy that the plant while producing seed still delivered a debilitating "For that era" high!

    Afghani contribution was generally Hash and sometimes oil. Then there was Thailand's contribution which was a Sativa strain, seedy and stemmy.

    I can still remember my first experience with a strain like we see today.. A buddy family owned a huge walnut orchard with a creek running thru it and he planted a few seeds and only one plant survived the deer, and obviously it was a female and did all the things you outlined :) I remember my wife and I met him at the Santa Clara fairgrounds for the fair, to make a long story, we walked the horse track smoking a blunt and the rest was to embarrassing to talk about!

    All I can say is it involve a dark 110 degree tent, a small blurry window and a lady behind it that turned in to a ferocious Gorilla and me crawling out of it on all fours LOLOL
     
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    Just look at the studies I have shown.
     
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    If you can suggest a better way to illustrate this, it would be welcome. You seem to have given these ideas a lot of thought, which I think more people should do. One thing I can say I am sure of, is that in order for people to grasp the concepts of the way their minds works and how they can use it better- it's got to be kept simple. The more we complicate the models or examples, the more confusing and impossible it gets. I've refined the basic rules of successful living down to three fundamental principles, which I can write on a business card. Because following them automatically resolves other issues- it's all I need, and all I've used now for well over 30 years as a life guide. The real problem for most is getting rid of the trash that is in the way of seeing what works- and every day, somebody dumps a new load of trash on your table and tells you it's important.

    At the time I was teaching the techniques I developed, a psychologist said that what I was teaching was very comparable to a process called Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy, developed by a Dr Albert Ellis. I'd not heard of him, but in researching it I found that it was indeed based on the same fundamentals. You might find his concepts very interesting, and there is an organization that continues to support them, widely known and respected- AlbertEllis.org.

    A client long ago that had several adopted children was talking about the variables in their identities, and asked me what I thought formed and shaped them, Nature or Nurture?
    My reply was- both. We are all born with different natural capacities, but them the trick is to find those capacities and nurture them. Most people, even with lower levels of IQ, can do some pretty impressive things when that is done well. I had very high IQ, but it took me years to acquire some of the social skills that average people had. I also wanted to play the guitar- and after 12 years and three guitars, I was still horrible. I finally accepted that wanting wasn't enough for that particular thing- and I flat out lacked the natural talent. However, I discovered I had a talent for many other things including investing, and that has served me very well. I believe everybody has something, some gifts of great value. What you can't do is not nearly as important as finding what you can do.
     

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