Wow do I hate marijuana.

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  1. FreshAir

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    Somewhere earlier, I listed those things which I thought were dangerous in order. Tobacco was at the top of the list and then alcohol and then marijuana. . However, that does not prove mj is safe for younger people.

    If you want to destroy your brain cells, have at it. All I ask is that you discourage young people from doing it.
     
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    that proves it should not be a scheduled 1 substance.... thus 18 year old young adults should be able to choose for themselves as the studies show it's safer then alcohol or Tobacco

    as my friends and I used marijuana when younger as did many Americans and we are all just fine.... prohibitionists need to move on.. decide for yourselves, not everyone else
     
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    READ THE ******N STUDIES.
     
  5. FreshAir

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    wow, you need to do something to relax... wonder what would do that... lol

    do you think Marijuana should NOT be in the Scheduled 1 substance list?

    https://www.dea.gov/drug-scheduling

    "Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse."

    as Marijuana has known medical benefits, if one can not admit it doesn't qualify as a scheduled 1 substance... then they are obviously biased for prohibition
     
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    THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING. I AM OUT OF HERE. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS.
     
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    You are confused. Without a control group, it is impossible to scientifically "observe changes", because the supposed change could only be observed versus a control group. Without the ability to "observe changes", any subsequent statistical analysis is not worth the paper upon which it is printed. You are parading around pseudo-scientific conclusions as actual science.

    Furthermore, you are misstating the true argument relating to marijuana. The true argument is not that it is harmless, but rather that comparatively speaking, marijuana is less harmful than alcohol. That conclusion is obvious to anyone that is at least moderately experienced with the use of both of those substances. Invariably, the people that take the most ardent anti-marijuana position, are people that have little or no experience with its use.
     
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    was a simple question, with a simple answer, but feel free not to answer it

    do you think Marijuana should NOT be in the Scheduled 1 substance list?

    https://www.dea.gov/drug-scheduling

    "Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse."

    that is the DEA's own definition of a scheduled 1 substance, not mine
     
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    I really don't care. If you want to ruin your brain, that is your right.
    I have been around for 81 years. I have seen the effects of marijuana on young people up close and personal. The many studies match what I have. seen. Like I told Fresh Air, if you want to ruin your brain cells, have at it. Just don't encourage young people.
     
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    The longer the plant goes without pollenating the more thc it produces. Small indoor where you've got people inspecting the plants and trimming them daily, removing the males as they arise until its time, with lights and proper balancing of the soil etc is the way to make those ridiculous things you see in a magazine. Lot of people just aren't satisfied by regular dirt weed man
     
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    but do you think Marijuana meets the definition of a scheduled 1 substance? I say NO it does not meet the definition

    https://www.dea.gov/drug-scheduling

    "Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse."

    I already said I do not drink or smoke... that is not the point, the point is if it should be illegal and a scheduled 1 substance - if you agree, then we agree and can leave it at that
     
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    Not if they know someone eighteen or twenty one ;) But you're right drugs have always been easier to get, and now "THC" even easier..
     
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    It's not really legal in those states, just not prosecuted by state authorities. The feds could bust it up anytime they wanted.
     
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    Who said anything about encouraging young people? Who said anything about encouraging anyone for that matter?

    As I said, the argument is NOT that marijuana is harmless (because it is not). The argument is that marijuana is less harmful than alcohol. In a world where alcohol is legal, it is nonsensical for the less harmful substance of marijuana to be illegal. It is akin to it being legal to sell $1 lottery tickets, but illegal to sell lottery tickets that cost 25 cents. Such a law does not make any sense.
     
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    this is true, the feds have classified Marijuana as a scheduled one substance even though it does not meet their definition of scheduled 1 substance

    I think the old farts in government like Sessions that supported prohibition are becoming less and less every year, only a mater of time now
     
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    It's easy to blame the substance, but really it comes down the user of the substance. It is easy to fall into compulsive consumption of various substances and experience negative effects as a consequence. I think I've overdone the consumption of caffeine, of all things, leading to effects on my mood and cognition. We have our own predispositions to various substances, too. While I've "abused" caffeine, I've never been one to abuse alcohol, and I haven't even tried MJ or any other substance. Not even tobacco.

    I think help for those who abuse a substance needs to be personal and tailored, not a blanket ban on something that a minority of people end up abusing. At least where something as trivial as MJ is concerned. I don't mind keeping acutely harmful stuff like meth and coke outlawed.
     
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    Theoretically, yes the Feds could bust it up. Realistically however, doing so would be political suicide, and thus that will never happen.
     
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    IMHO, all they are doing is weakening the rule of law. I wish that Congress would make a law legalizing medical marijuana in all states (making it a legally prescribable drug--put it on a different schedule), and make recreational marijuana legality up to the states (like alcohol is).
     
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    For those of us with addictive personalities, moderation is a continuing challenge. Never got too wired to anything but came close a few times over the years.

    I found a mantra that has been extremely useful to me over the years. "It ain't how much you consume its all about maintaining your buzz." I deliberately set out to learn how to moderate my consumption to maintain my "happy place" without falling on my face or being incredibly stupid. (those times I was, I attribute to my own stupidity, not the drugs)

    Cheers.
     
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    You can grow Reggie just as easily
     
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    Reggie doesn't get anyone stoned
     
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    What I grow does.
     
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    heresy.jpg
     
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    Back in the day we used to call it "texas road grass". An ounce was half seeds, it tasted like cr a p and you had to smoke two joints to get reasonably high. Course it also cost $20. Seems you really do get what you pay for.
     
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    They still sell that. Its the bud light of weed.

    EDIT: Wait... no. Its the really watered down, hot, half empty mad dog 20/20 grape from a dumpster with bum spittle still on it of weed.
     
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