WSJ: ‘Demographic Shift’ Helping to Replace Trump’s Base of Support

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  1. Sahba*

    Sahba* Well-Known Member

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    U do know that if we are in the middle of a war (& no, - slim to no chance of that happening under Trump) come fall of this year - there is very little chance of a Dem winning against him. Like it or not, he would be a partisanly popular, incumbent war time president with a doggedly loyal base; historically speaking, U should know how that tends to work out... :)
     
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    Which short instance are you referring to?
     
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    Grenada, Panama, Domincan Civil War. Enough examples there to nullify your claim.

    Oh, and while I'm at it, your account of Korea & Vietnam is pretty laughable too, though to be expected. The 'political considerations' in Korea revolved around how not to start WW3, and racing toward the Chinese border chasing the remnants of the Nth Korean Army doesn't count as 'backing off'. So your fictional notion of the US 'backing off' in Korea had zero to do with China intervening.

    Quite how people convince themselves of these fantasies is beyond me.
     
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    Wrong!

    The Gulf War was BOTH short and conventional!
     
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    As usual Not-so-bright-bart gets it wrong!

    That is an utterly LUDICROUS claim!

    The total of ALL Registered Voters is 153 million per the Census.

    Just under 130 million people VOTED in 2016.

    That does NOT mean that those 23 million who did NOT vote were EXCLUSIVELY "non-college educated white men"!

    Just for STARTERS at least HALF of that group are going to be WOMEN, not men!

    Secondly the IMPOTUS only won 2/3rds of the white non-college educated vote and he is LOSING 19% of his Obama-Trump voters already.

    Lastly, and by far the MOST IMPORTANT, is that the RV's who did not voter are MORE LIKELY to be the victims of GOP Minority Suppression efforts than anything else. This was proven in the 2018 election when Progressives appealed to this demographic and hammered the GOP with a record setting turnout!

    Yes, the "white non-college educated voters" are going to SHRINK by 2.3% between 2016 and 2020 which means a loss of about 3.5 million votes for a NET LOSS of about 1.2 million votes for the IMPOTUS.

    But the bad news for him does NOT end there!

    Millennial turnout is INCREASING and it is much more DIVERSE than the Boomers which is going to hurt both the GOP and the IMPOTUS.

    As mentioned briefly above a study of Obama-Trump supporters shows that his support has dropped by 19% already. That translates into 1% of the electorate overall and will probably be a 2% SWING against him in 2020.

    Put all those numbers together and then ask WHERE is your IMPOTUS going to make up those deficits?
     
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    Never trust an idiot!Sorry, but Trump is one of the biggest ones.
    BTW the war is already started.
     
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    Trump is unpredictable and flushed the US constitution down the toilet.
    He is playing with existence of our planet
     
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    Ah, instead of whining about demographics, the Republican Party would be wise to embrace the immigrants and present them with better ideas—free market, individual rights, opportunities, and prosperity through self-effort against the Democrat Party’s offer of free hand outs, class envy, the unearned, and reparations for tribal victimization. The elections would be theirs.
     
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    Why would immigrants be interested in any of that?
     
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    They’re human, ie., beings of reason.
     
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    We did not drop the nuke outside Hiroshima or Nagasaki. In spite of the 2 nuked cities fanatic elements of the Japanese military attempted to capture or kill the Emperor and overthrow the military government to prevent the surrender. I takes a lot of persuasion to neutralize a fanatic death cult.
     
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    I agree. Beyond that the tradition of entrenched corruption and ignorance long associated with the American political class makes it very difficult for the military to achieve a decisive final victory over any enemy.
     
  13. Lil Mike

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    Then why hasn't it already happened yet? Has something strangled their reason until right now?
     
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    Why would any American want our enemies to be able to predict our Executive's response to an attack?

    BLOOMBERG, U.S. Killing of Soleimani Leaves Trump ‘Totally Unpredictable’, David Wainer and Nick Wadhams, January 4, 2020.
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-killing-soleimani-leaves-trump-050002273.html
     
  15. Starjet

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    Time will tell. One thing is true, denying the living the right to live isn’t the moral high ground, is it?
     
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    Time will tell? We've already had time, so I think it's safe to say we already know. But you really must explain this non sequitur response, "denying the living the right to live isn’t the moral high ground..."

    What the hell are you talking about?
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Immigrants are human souls. Their motive is to live, prosper, love, and grow. To deny them the right to immigrate is to deny them the right to live free and prosper, love, and grow. Its a sickening, disgusting, cowardly and immoral characteristic embraced by White Nationalists, the Alt-Right, and now the Republican party.

    The Republicans can't win the immigrants with ideas, so they'll lock them out. Oh, that's honorable, that's brave, that's American...that's fkd up.
     
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    OK so you're off the deep end with open borders huh? I figured that's where you were heading.

    No, any country has a right to restrict or limit who comes in their borders. There is no right for foreigners to cross our borders and set up shop here without permission. Their "souls" don't have unlimited visas.
     
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    Open immigration, not open borders--to want to live is not a sin, stopping others from exercising their right to do so, is.
     
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    Apropos article going into some of the blatant double standards you seem to be alluding to... The long'n short of it is that these illegals (riled up & backed by the DNC) are demanding legal status & the documents to go with it. While U or I legal citizen must bring in - birth certificate - SS card - Passport - proof of address - take & pass drivers edu. etc. - it just aint so, for the 'double standard' / 'special status' illegal alien / criminal alien who bypass the requisite hoop jumping that we citizens get to be subjected to...

    http://michellemalkin.com/2019/12/1...out-of-the-shadows-and-into-the-voting-booth/

    illegal immigrants similarly flooded DMVs statewide to take advantage of the new “Green Light” law, which allows them to obtain licenses by simply presenting foreign consular IDs. The Mexican matricula consular card, as I’ve long reported, is a notoriously fraud-prone document with little to no authentication procedures to verify identity. Meddling Mexican officials hand out matricula cards like Pez candy. They are intentionally designed as get-out-of-deportation cards and gateways to opening bank accounts in America.

    Instead of a Social Security card, which American citizens have to present, illegal immigrants can just write up an affidavit stating that they don’t have a Social Security card. If my son had presented such a letter at our Colorado DMV (which also issues driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants), he would have been laughed out of the office.

    So, where’s ICE? Remember: New Jersey and New York are sanctuary jurisdictions that brazenly harbor and shelter illegal immigrants. The Green Light law explicitly bars ICE from having access to DMV records. As the Center for Immigration Studies points out, the legislation now creates a situation in which “a foreign nation, Canada, freely shares its DMV information with CBP and ICE,” while “the state of New York will refuse to do so.”

    Pay close attention to this insanity. It’s not just about rewarding law-breakers with driving privileges. Our country’s election integrity is under siege by foreign influence. Mass migration, legal and illegal, is bringing in millions of potential new voters who support gun control, socialized medicine, expanded welfare, free speech restrictions and resistance to immigration enforcement. Do the political math:

    Illegal immigrant driver’s licenses + Motor Voter + Soros-funded naturalization and registration drives + anti-Trump resistance lawsuits against voter citizenship checks = recipe for systemic voter fraud, more amnesty, and a permanent Democratic ruling majority.
     
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    Vote Democrat for Open Borders! LET THEM ALL IN!

    That will work. Please tell the DNC to keep pushing that. ;-)
     
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    It has become very difficult for the DP establishment to actually win elections.
    Hence all the emphasis on rigging and nullifying elections.
    The "Democratic Party" is very anti-Democratic".
     
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    Not to be disrespectful, but I've no interest in your religious mumbo jumbo. It's no sin to keep foreigners out of my country, and it doesn't interfere with them living. People have lived on this planet for a million years without the US immigration system. If they really want to move, there are like 200 other countries to move to. They are welcome to try to go there.
     
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    Sorry, just the way it is. If you want to vote ya gotta prove your legal.
     
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    It is a sin, but being Christian, you don't care--Jesus saves. (BTW: The justification is not religious, it's objective)
     
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