Yes, Virginia, Democrats Want Critical Race Theory in Your Schools

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  1. FreshAir

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    CRT is neither good or bad, but some on both sides seem to be using it to justify their bad, maybe that is the real issue
     
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    You obviously, have not bothered to read the 1619 project or paid attention to how this information is being presented to our children in school. Any time you have a narrative that is based on the concept of racial stereotyping it is bad. When you have the government forcing businesses, corporations and even the military to accept that narrative it is terrible. When you are forcing that false narrative down the throats of school children it is terrible. When you have a political party using the false narrative to push a political agenda designed the divide this country in order to fundamentally to change the country then it is potentially devastating.

    The CRT is definitely not good. There is nothing good to be gained from it. As it stands right now, it is terrible and potentially devastating.
     
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    I’m so glad both These post were made so I can illustrate the absolute hubris and arrogance of modern day leftist.

    This is a perfect example of how leftist actually believe their simple ideology, they believe, is so intellectually complicated and morally correct that anyone on the other side of the political spectrum is just too based to understand. If you are on the right you are so morally inept that you can’t see the righteous logic of whatever latest liberal dogma being espoused is.
    “ you don’t know what socialism is”. “You don’t understand CRT”. Basically to modern leftist if your on the right you only understand the basic emotion of an animal “fear, hate” etc. and they put all your resistance to their terrible ideas down to base emotions. Because they literally think they are so superior to you both in intellect and moral superiority that they can’t possibly be wrong and your nothing more than a base animal grunting at your betters.

    this of course is nothing more than arrogance, foolishness, and misplaced pride. The truth is this defense mechanism is in place because leftist cannot defend their trash ideologies, like socialism and CRT, because even republicans can see how simple and unsophisticated the idea is that the systemic racism is in every institution, law, and rule our society has. It’s a narrow rose colored way to approach the world around you. Its saying “the answer is racism, what is the question”. So my fellow conservatives and moderate democrats don’t let these leftist blow sunshine up your rear. They are neither morally nor intellectually superior to you. They still have to squat to use the bathroom just like the rest of us.
     
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    Well then you dont understand CRT. Racism against whites is "anti racism" which CRT demands.

    " The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination." Kendi
     
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    CRT it just a theory on racism, not good or bad, but some white racists and some black racists are using it to justify their hate of other races
     
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    nope, that is not what CRT is, yes, racist spin it that way, both white and black racists
     
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    It defines ANY racial disparity that disfavors blacks as systemic racism. 96% of potential white voters have ID but only 96% of blacks do so, ANY laws requiring ID are by definition, systemic racism, JIM CROW 2.0!
    Blacks more likely to be expelled or suspended from schools, systemic racism. Blacks dont score as well on standardized testing, systemic racism.
    No, its bad.

    "Max Horkheimer first defined critical theory (German: Kritische Theorie) in his 1937 essay "Traditional and Critical Theory", as a social theory oriented toward critiquing and changing society as a whole, in contrast to traditional theory oriented only toward understanding or explaining it. Wanting to distinguish critical theory as a radical, emancipatory form of Marxist philosophy,"

    Marxist philosophy for "changing society"
     
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    it's just a theory, it's how people use it that is good or bad, and there are white and back racists using it for bad
     
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    Kendi is a black proponent of CRT. No white spin required. School district in Virginia spent $24,000 on Kendis book for kids in history class.
     
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    as I said, some whites and blacks use it for bad

    CRT itself is neither good or bad
     
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    How are white racist using it for bad?
     
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    they are using it to cause fear, all one has to do is watch social media
     
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    Ah, so you view opposing CRT as bad. And anyone who opposes as a racist. And I havent seen any evidence of anyone being in "fear" of CRT. You simply view any opposition to CRT as irrational fear.
    No need to deny your love of CRT
     
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    calling everything black racists do "CRT" to make CRT look bad and instill fear in white people is bad

    tell us what you disagree with in CRT, I see no real debates on CRT
     
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    CRT's assumption that ANY racial disparity that disfavors blacks is systemic racism. CRT's opposition to "equal" protection under the law in favor of "equitable" protection under the law.

    I couldnt decipher the meaning of your first sentence above.
     
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    If I told someone that they are evil because the color of their skin is black, would that be racist? If I told them that they are lazy or stupid based solely on the color of their skin, would that be racist? Yes, it would be. Martin Luther King Jr, stated it best in his "I have a dream" speech. He said that he dreamed of a day when his children were judged by their character, and not the color of their skin. That sentiment is true of all of us. Every race.

    The CRT tries to paint whites with the same wide brush that the whites painted minorities for more than a century in this country. But that time is passed. You cannot reverse the harm done by racism with more racism. What we should be doing is taking words in the Preamble of the US Constitution to heart. You know the words that say that "all men are created equal". I am sure that the liberals would support a paraphrase that all people are created equal, but the key word here is "equal". That is what we have been working on for the last 50 years or more, equality. But the CRT tells us that Equality is not the answer. It is Equity. If we are using the real definition for the word, I have no problem with that. But that is not what the supporters of CRT are pushing. Webster defines Equity as "fairness or justice in the way people are treated". But you do not gain fairness by denigrating the majority population. If you think that is a good idea, then maybe you should study South African history. Just because the racial roles are reversed does not mean it will work out better.
     
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    Crt has been drilled home so long at the "University level" that those who teach our kids cannot refrain from injecting it into young minds. Those precepts are drilled into young minds even in math classes. What does it have to do with math one may ask? What does race talk have to do with anything in teaching young kids how to think!
     
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    CRT definitely is defined. Perhaps you should obtain some of it's literature. It's basic premise is that whites are oppressors and people of color are oppressed. The idea is to spark an overthrow of our system. Problem is, whites are tired of being categorized thusly, and minorities are tired of being belittled.....especially when they have seen a number of their own rise to the top!
     
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    And if so, why are they getting so upset? If it’s not being taught then they should say, “fine, ban it. It’s wrong and we don’t agree with it.” But THEY DO agree with it and it is racist and it is being taught.
     
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    If you read your own quote there isn't much there that should be concerning to any patriotic American. As most on the right you don't understand CRT, to the right its a quick catch phrase of fear that is being defined as "Teaching that being white is bad". The right has conflated that ( <- ) false narrative into a belief that their narrative is the underlying principal of everything taught in our public schools. NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.

    "CRT", as your quote points out, recognizes that OUR past is checkered with policies that have disadvantaged people of color in America, and that was wrong and we need to change our ways. Nothing about, true/real, CRT pedagogy (that's a very scary word that just means "teaching") suggests "being white is bad". It "pedagog's"/teaches that we've made mistakes, in racial policy, culture and outcomes, that need corrected, and that's AbsaByGodLutely true.

    CRT is NOT "Whitey is bad and it's time for Blacks to rule", or any such thing of the kind. It's ANOTHER bogyman in the right wing closet ready to take away anyone's freedom that just doesn't exist.

    And it's not the foundational principal for ALL education in OUR schools. It might be one section in a civics book that takes up a few days in the whole school year.

    Boggedy Boggedy! :roll:
     
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    Then perhaps you should point out how focus on racial identity when trying to teach young minds how to think, could possibly be uniting or good.
     
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    "Fairness and justice" from a marxist perspective is equal outcomes.

    "Capitalism is essentially racist; racism is essentially capitalist...they shall one day die together from unnatural causes." Kendi

    "Historically capitalism + racism are interlinked, which is why I call them the conjoined twins + historians like me call them “racial capitalism” in the singular. But some self-described forms of “antiracism” are not anti-capitalist, which in my book means they’re not antiracism." Kendi
     
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    Bill Maher, liberal professor clash on CRT in schools: It’s ‘disingenuous’ to say parents oppose Black history.

    Bill Maher is right, the propagandist liars are slandering parents. Small wonder that We The People are rejecting these slandering liars at the ballot box.
    The lying race hustlers are big proponents of The Big Lie.
    These folks lie as a first language.
    That's right. These lying haters take a classroom full of children getting along just fine, and teach them to hate and resent one another based on immutable characteristics that the children themselves were not emphasizing, and certainly not measuring as a value of their intrinsic worth or guilt.
    Or in Hillary's "baskets". These haters want to group and then pit the groups in oppositional hate. What we need to exclude are these hateful race hustlers.
    In some senses Maher pisses me off. Yes, he's right, but where the hell was he while this was building and we were warning that this is where this agenda of hate was headed? But, it's never too late to do the right thing, so, there is that going for Maher.
    There is nothing "liberal" about these clowns, they are hard core Leftist authoritarians, quite the opposite of adherents of America's Constitutional Liberal Democracy.
    It's an agenda of separatism, and when students are immersed in it, they begin to separate.

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    That has nothing to do with the OP.
     

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