You are being lied to about the reasons behind the Coup Attempt in Venezuela

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  1. Primus Epic

    Primus Epic Well-Known Member

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    We don't seem to have the capacity in this country to learn our lessons from history. 1953/1954 Iran. Operation T/P Ajax involving both British Intelligence and US Intelligence operatives who were on the ground and had been working the dismantling of the Iranian Government for years prior. The initial coup failed to remove Mohammad Mosaddegh, but the momentum coming from the blitzkrieg of British/US propaganda on the ground, caused the People of Iran to exile their once beloved Prime Minster.

    How does a Prime Minister go from being beloved be the People, to hated and reviled be the People. Answer? A good intelligence operation on the ground to foment discord among the native. Very routine and old school playbook for MI6 and CIA.

    Note the timing of the fire fights today in Venezuela, and the timing of the video you just saw above explaining what the Trump administration was attempting to do by contacting US oil barons here at home.

    I told you the entire Trump Show being played on on television was most likely a diversion. I told you that there was most likely a different reason for the daily distraction in our Media. I told you there was most likely an ulterior motive. Our Media has been entirely complicit here, which once again demonstrates government's integration into our Media at the highest level and proves that Propaganda IS the news in this country.

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    Here you have the Number #1 oil cache now under attack and its People DO NOT understand what they are attempting to do and for whose interest this will ultimately serve. We did not learn about Operation T/P Ajax until decades after it was over and until American Hostages were ultimately taken as a direct result of the Iranian People, finally figuring out what we had done to them years ago.

    What will this (no doubt MI6/CIA) operation be called decades from now? Operation Palmolive? Soften your hands while you do the dishes becomes: Soften your commute to work with Venezuelan Oil, while you continue to serve and feed the Beast as its Economic Slave.

    Wake up, America.
     
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    What are you trying to infer? That Maduro is a once beloved leader? That Venezuela's problems don't stem from years of socialism and now socialistic fascism?
     
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    This makes for a good book, but do you have any proof? I mean does the USA and the UK have to be behind every countries upheaval?
     
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    Going to be one Hell of a mess no matter what. China and Russian are heavily involved there now...
     
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    Who is Maduro? What do you really know about him what was the source of that education? Who was Hugo Chavez, how did he come to power before Maduro? What was our relationship with both Maduro and Chavez, before it allegedly fell apart?
     
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    I don't know. Do they? Follow the Petrodollar, follow who is oil dependent and ultimately you should arrive at the causation behind all these regime changes. Focus on just the regime change only, or the fomented madness revealed in the streets always after the effect of destabilizing a government and you will only see what the Media wants you to see.
     
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    When do we invade Canada?
     
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    Who is Maduro? A corrupt thieving self serving pig. The chief people who will benefit from Maduro and the Russian and Chinese and Cubans being gone? The Venezuelan people.
     
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    So you are guessing and applying your own beliefs to situations without having any facts. You want the USA and the UK to be the cause. It makes everything very tidy and easily digestible. I know it is nice to have some one to blame for the worlds troubles. But in the real world that is not how it works.
     
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    We'd be best to stop meddling in other countries' business. I have no argument at all with that. This country has wasted trillions of dollars playing world cop...........and what did it get us? Nothing, other than considered the planet's bully. Eff em, eff em all. Let them clean up their own BS messes. Screw this globalist nonsense, and if they try and come for us we'll send them some sheet music to the tune of "turn them to glass".

    I honestly don't understand all the whining, moaning, complaining about American Nationalism. If the truth be known, we are on our on anyway. Guard our borders, keep the riff raff out. Speak softly, carry a big stick and blow their asses off the map if they threaten us. And that's what American Nationalism is all about.......no matter what color you are.
     
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    Venezuela, is the new Syria. Iran, is the old playbook. And, yes. It will be a good hot mess before its over.
     
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    The left: OMG This is HORRIBLE!!11!1 The US needs to do SOMETHING about this!

    Also the left: OMG GET OUT!!1!! white supremacy capitalistic evil colonialists leave those people alone!
     
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    We should just take Canada. It would be easier and it's closer and has more oil.
     
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    Look out, Canada! You're next!
     
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    Why would we invade Canada? They freely use the Petrodollar and they have never threatened to break away from it. When has Canada, ever done that? Just curious.
     
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    Well we could do it in a weekend and Trudeau getting captured in his Bollywood garb would be interesting.
     
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    Not that there aren't MANY fine Canadian citizens, a cuck like Trudeau will just hand us the keys to the wells. :roflol:
     
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    Tongue and cheek I think. A joke. :grin:
     
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    He'd drop both eyebrows like one of those lizards who's tail falls off when attacked.
     
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    How the hell did he get elected to such a fine country? For one thing........he's FRENCH. Why would they allow themselves to be subjected to someone like that?
    (hint, I know........we elected Obozo, so anything is possible) :rolleyes:
     
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    If they threaten to leave the Petrodollar, they will be next. Do you understand what Global Reserve Currency Means in relationship to Natural Resources. It is a monster of a subject and it goes to the heart of Western Civilization as we know it - or as we think we know it.

    Who threatened to leave the USD behind for purchasing oil on the open market using a different currency over the years? Now, compare that list to the free standing sovereign countries that have either been outright invaded or that have suffered crippling and debilitating sanctions from the West, namely the United States and the United Kingdom - not ironically, two of the biggest oil dependent countries on earth.

    Coincidence? What was the reason behind T/P Ajax circa 1953/54 Iran? Did Mohammad, say something about, oh I don't know, "nationalizing Iranian oil reserves?" I think he said something like that. What happened next in Iran? Did we not erect a puppet? Prior to all this, as far back as 1925, what was the catalyst that shifted internal leadership opinion in Iran, causing it to seek changes in the underlying "concessions" agreement with APOC? Going back further to 1914, what happened to APOC causing its leadership to change, creating a direct link to British Foreign Policy on Natural Resources - namely oil? How did these two events set the stage for what would eventually take place in 1953/54 in Iran, leading to the coup?

    These are a different set of circumstances than what's happening right now in Venezuela, but the underlying common denominator remains exactly the same.
     
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    We're a net oil exporter at this point.
     
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    Its ok. Just know that Here We Go Again. This time in Venezuela. Carter, warned us about this more than 40 years ago. He predicted this kind of stuff would happen and he was spot on accurate. We are just doing more of the same.

    My concern is what took place in Iran, after we did the same there and the kind of hate we created in the middle east for all things "Western." Some of you may not be old enough to remember all the American Flags, American Presidents, British Flags and British Prime Ministers that were set on fire and drug through the streets of the "Middle East" and particularly in Iran, after 1953/54. It was constantly on the 6'Oclock News as I recall it as a child coming up. I distinctly remember those images nightly on television.

    The dd not hate us because they ain't us. The hated us because we constantly meddled in their sovereignty. We create enemies and terrorists and then wonder why we have them. We do this because we are Energy Inefficient and Energy Dependent. That's the bigger point here.

    I always have a broader point. I just want people to think about the historical details behind the Causation and then ask themselves, could we be doing more to prevent our problems than we do. We send the exact same politicians to Washington, who produce the exact same policies that produce the exact same disasters that we end up eating in the long run - it is called Blowback.
     
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    Who told you that and was Mohammad the same in Iran, circa 1953/54 before he was run out of dodge?


    And, you believe that? Who fills the vacuum that you believe needs to be filled? So, we (in the West) are going to bring peace and stability to Venezuelan, with another Ajax scrub (aka regime change) and then Venezuela, does what for us. What's the punchline here? Or, are you suggesting that MI6 and CIA are not behind this?

    Did you watch that CNBC clip in the OP? I think you should watch it and read the OP. Listen carefully to what you were being told by the Anchor and their Guest. Then, note the date on the screen. Then turn on your television now. You could have predicted this "triggering event" just by paying attention.

    We need Energy Independence. Bottom line. The only way to get it is through Innovation. We need what I've been calling into existence for years now. We need a full blown assault on a New Energy Technology Based Economy. It would make us richer, more stable and remove all reasons for engaging in regime changes, clandestine operations in foreign countries and it would remove the need to engage in False Flag Operations designed to promote a go-to-war ethos here at home.

    If China and Russia, develop a strategic alliance on economics, that will pave the way for the world to shift out of the USD and into the CNY as reserve currency. The new Petrodollar. If that happens, and we don't have our Energy Independence House in order, we are done. Game over. You can pack your stuff and kiss this place goodbye. You will not want to live here in under 5 years. It will anarchy on the streets like you have never seen before.

    Innovation sets us free. But, there is nobody either in Congress or in the White House willing to tell you this truth. Nobody. They all give you the Silent Lie. They just decide to never discuss it. Meanwhile, national debt rises and the USD get weaker internally.

    If the :icon_shithappens::icon_shithitsthefan as I outline... just start packing.
     
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    But, we also demand more than we produce.

    A "net oil exporter" who does not even make the Top 5 and is dwarfed by them in barrels per day. We are falling on that list, not rising. Soon, we'll be down to somewhere near.... Brazil. Wanna see what that looks like today. Here, have a close look at our future if we do not find a way to Innovate out of this mess:

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    That's what Number 15 looks like today. Granted, they do not have the other Exports that we do - this is true. I don't deny that fact. And, China, is Number #13 on the list with the world's hottest economy right now. I don't deny that either. However, look who is below Number #1. Algeria, Angola, Ecuador, Mexico and Azerbaijan. True, we have exports that they don't. I get that. Yet, even with the increases we've seen from 2015 in oil experts, we are still a Net/Net importer of crude oil.
     
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