You guys need to watch this interview/documentary with an 11 yr old transgender

What the science says is that despite the parts on the outside people can be born with male brains in a woman's body or vise versa. It would not be lying to say you are male if you were born with a brain that says this is your identity. That's because our definitions of gender has changed in the scientific community. This isn't arguing against science fact. The scientists and the medical professionals are on board. Transgender is a real medical phenomenon. It's not someone lying. It's someone's gender

If your child was acting in this manner and he was claiming he was a girl and was consistently believing so and acting like it and showing distress and gender confusion over years and you took your child to the doctor or a psychologist they would recommend the exact thing this family did. Accept it and go into hormone therapy. Because that's the treatment for this kind of medical phenomenon. The science has shown that this is a real issue that needs to be treated with acceptance. There is no other way. It's in their genes. Their brain was born a certain way.

 

The medical community supports the idea of transgender people. If you brought your child to the doctor after years of gender confusion the doctor would diagnose the child as being transgender recommend hormone therapy.

 

No what that science shows is feminine men and masculine women. There is no correcting your genitalia to match what you perceive yourself to be. Even going with your "woman in man's body" argument, that man will never be able to be pregnant like the woman he perceives himself to be. Can't happen. All he can so is mutilate his body and try to pass for being woman.

Show me the male brain and female brain so if I were to look at them I could tell that be difference. I can do that with genitalia.

 

If a baby is born and has a penis, that baby is a boy. Period. End of story.

 

It was clearly implied, not sure how you missed it.

Clearly trying to imply it's all the same. It's not, and some of us arent going to play along with this PC nonsense. Gay couples are not, and can not have kids without the helping hand of science. It's a dead end lifestyle, and should not be confused with a life bearing lifestyle. Sorry if reality reminders get in the way of you guys who want to lump them all together and pretend it's all the same.

 

Yes, it does. 100% of the time. It's the only thing that can be demonstrably proven. Feelings change all the time, and you cannot even prove they exist, as such they do not counteract the physical facts.

The Doctor was not wrong, and was dealing in fact. It is your crowd who is wrong when you pretend that feelings in any way changes this. The only Doctor who was wrong here is the Doctor that sides with this Boy really being a Girl despite all concrete proof to the contrary.

 

I think "inferred" is the word you were looking for.








Clearly trying to imply it's all the same. It's not, and some of us arent going to play along with this PC nonsense. Gay couples are not, and can not have kids without the helping hand of science. It's a dead end lifestyle, and should not be confused with a life bearing lifestyle. Sorry if reality reminders get in the way of you guys who want to lump them all together and pretend it's all the same.[/QUOTE]

 

For most, but genetics is not perfect - many are born with a female brain and male body. Explain why gay men's brains react more like straight female brains to Prozac than a straight male's.

 

If splitting that hair is all you have left, then I'll take it as acknowledgement of the point I made.

 

So let them choose to do it, but let's not force everyone to accept their CHOICE. No new regulations and laws should be made for a CHOICE.

 

Scientists have been able to detect the difference in male and female brains for awhile now. And we're even getting to the point where we can detect if someone has a transgender brain. http://www.newscientist.com/article...rences-caught-on-brain-scan.html#.U43OnfldVxw

This is the science. You're focusing on genitals like a child would. This is a real medical issue that is treated with a sex change to prevent severe mental illness and suicide.

 

How can something change all the time, if it does not exist?
Guess you've never loved anyone?

 

I didnt say they dont exist, we all have feelings. However knowing that feelings change, and can not be documented like physical facts....means I put them on a lower rung than those which can be documented and proven.

I've loved plenty....and at times I was reminded just how unreliable feelings are as I thought for sure I loved one of my ex girlfriends. Only to find out later, perhaps it wasnt love as I easilly moved on. I just dont see feelings being on the same documentable level as facts. Too unreliable.

How do you PROVE love? You can't, people just have to take your word that you believe you do. Physical facts though? Easy to prove and document...I put them on a higher level when it comes time to decide between one or the other.

 

That's STUPID! Never heard a dumber comment in my life! Yup, having those body parts DETERMINES if a child is a boy or a girl 100% of the time, PERIOD. If said child then thinks they are the opposite sex INSIDE THEIR MIND, then that child is MENTALLY ILL.

 

How is this PROVEN OBJECTIVELY by SCIENCE? I mean does the brain have the chromosomes in it that can be extracted by a scientist or doctor and looked at under a microscope or with some MRI or something that PROVES OBJECTIVELY that the brain's makeup is opposite what the rest of the body is? Or is this just a theory?

 

No it's not a theory. We can look at the brain and tell if someone has a transgender brain. As I've shown in the link provided in the previous post.

 

I don't see how a statement such as, "I can have kids, too, with my mate" implies it is done the same way with homosexuals as heterosexuals, unless you want to limit the definition of having kids to only heterosexual intercourse. Generally speaking, society doesn't limit the definition in such a way. Parents of adopted children usually say they have kids, too. There's no other commonly used phrase I can think of to describe a situation of two parents with a child.

And the difference between "imply" and "infer" is fairly significant.

 

me too.

http://www.vocabulary.com/articles/chooseyourwords/imply-infer/

Wasn't I using the correct term when referring to the other posters statement? He would be the speaker in that case.

 

Maybe you're just confused the. You said feelings change all the time. Then stated they are not proven to even exist. If they change, then it is proven to exist.

Great, put them on any level you want.
This kid places things on a different level than yo=u. So your opinion and hers differ. Big deal. No reason to have a panic attack. Or tell someone how they're suppose to feel because you don't like it. It is dumb.

 

What is stupid is you don't know what transgender is despite giving you a link.
The only thing 100% of the time are death and taxes. PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!
The only mentally ill folks are those that tell everyone else they have to live exactly how one thinks and feels because that is the only possible way life could be. That is serious mental illness. Especially when it has zero impact on the person's life.

 

There's no such thing as a "female brain". If two brains are laying side by side on a table in a lab, no one will be able to determine which brain came from a male or female simply by looking at them. A coin toss would be as effective as any scientific means to make that determination. But, anyone with a brain can simply look at a male and female and determine which is which on sight. Well..... most of the time.

 

No, it is YOU who is confused.

I didnt say feelings have been proven not to exist...we all have them.

I said you cannot prove a feeling exists.


It's a big difference.

If I tell you I feel something...lets say for sake of argument, I tell you "I love you".

Can you prove that I do? Can you prove I wasnt just lying?

Thats what I meant. I never said it's been proven love doesnt exist. Huge difference.....

 

Yeah, not buying it. Sounds like a Global Warming article with all the "may's", "mights" and "Maybes"....the 3 M's.

Isn't sure.

 

Making a statement isn't a feeling. Big difference. You can say anything you want, it is not a feeling. You can tell someone how you feel, but that is not the feeling.
You said feelings haven't been proven to exist. And just before that you said they change all the time.
You may just be emotional about the topic, not sure why, and didn't state your words properly.

 

Exactly to the bolded. So now prove that feeling is there...or isnt. Ill wait.

Oh Im choosing them properly.