You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

You voted for a President who implemented the most corporatist healthcare bill ever to pass law.


You voted for a President who has extended multiple wars in the Middle East, most of them which are illegal, to redistribute wealth to the military industrial complex and murder countless innocent foreign civilians.


You voted for a President who supported bailing out "too-big-to fail" Wall Street and has allowed 95% of the wealth gains since the recovery to go to the 1%.


You voted for a President who has continuously supported renewing the Patriot Act, defended NSA surveillance, NDAA '12, massive expansion of a 1984-like police state, and called the man who exposed this a hacker and a traitor.


You voted for a President who spits on the Constitution. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. The only question is - how long will it be before the left finally admits that they elected one of the worst Presidents in U.S. history?

 

The only answer is -- never. The left (Democrats) elected the perfect president for them. President Obama is the epitome of everything a Democrat could possibly want. He has annihilated the Republican Party and all it's conservative strap-hangers. He has accelerated 'Murica's" rapid road to socialism.

Bravo! Viva!

It is sad that Obama cannot enjoy the landslide victory of a third term -- hopefully Cory Booker will succeed him.

 

That's democracy for you - Suck it up princess and learn to play by the rules

 

I don't agree with how this health bill was written up, but I will give Obama credit for seeing the need of health care for Americans and trying to fill it. Hopefully we can change it. That's more than Republicans tried to do.

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I don't agree with Libya or Syria. But in no way do I believe we did it to help out our military industry.

Bush started the bailout and Obama carried it through. We had little choice. Not to do that would have crushed our economy. Just think if people and companies couldn't buy cars, televisions, homes, appliances and etc. because they couldn't borrow money. Can you imagine the people would be laid off?

Both our Presidents and their brightest advisers has said the Patriot Act is vital to our security to find and foil plots against this country from an unseen and unknown enemy. I think they know more than we do.

I think many in the Democratic Party would like to rid of us of the Constitution. So that's what you get when you elect a Democrat.

 

Ya, that makes no sense at all.

 

The US is a democracy. Dont like how a party is running the country? Get active, spread the benefits of your particular party and candidate. Show why your choice of leader is better than others. Sitting around moaning about the current leadership is pointless. Many of the complaints in the OP can be leveled at any President over the last hundred years. Sadly for many it is far easier to sit around and complain, than actually get out there and do something

 

That's just one variation on the typical statist response - "The democratic majority is flawless. If you don't like it, get out of my country. I don't want to hear you complain."

 

I wish i could vote for him again.

I guess Hillary will have to do.

 

You don't help consumers by legislating a law that massively benefits corporations at the expense of consumers.

Whether or not you believe that it was intentional is irrelevant to the fact that the military industrial complex massively funded the Obama campaign and benefited from his continual war engagements. I guess it could just be a massive coincidence though.

Wrong, we all had a choice because we could have voted for politicians that wouldn't have supported the bailouts.

Sounds like what happened despite the bailouts.

There's no proof for that whatsoever. Besides, violating the Constitution never makes our country more safe, ever. A government that doesn't obey its own laws is the most dangerous and unsafe centralizations of power that could ever possibly exist.

 

I understand what you're saying, but a majority of what President Obama and Bush have done run counter to democratic principals.

 

Obviously, you do not understand either the situation or the law. EVERYONE has to come along on the trip called health care reform. That's why the "Let's have everyone write the bill" approach was the one that worked.

What is the goober view of what happened in Iraq? Does anyone seriously equate tiny involvements in Libya and Syria with getting the hell out of the lie-driven Republican disaster and quagmire of Iraq?

We can add economics to the list of unexplained mysteries of the right-wing.

See what I mean?

LOL! Right-wingers pay no attention to the US Constitution and have no clue concerning what it actually says. Right-wingers instead worship the Bizarro Constitution as produced by the very same morons who came up with the nut-case Austrian school of economics and the just as addled notions of neo-libertarianism. These people are the "corporatists" along with the lying shills who work for them.

 

They fund both sides of every election.

 

Already said I didn't like the way the health care bill is written up. Hopefully the two sides can change it before it bankrupts the country.

Nope, don't believe it. The military suppliers are busy already making plenty of weapons for the Afghan war. Besides, we are the biggest military supplier in the world. We didn't need to get involved in Syria and Libya to help them out. I think Libya was more to help Europe with a steady oil supply from Lybia. We have always wanted to get rid of Syria's leader Bashar al-Assad, because of their funding of Israel's enemy Hezbollah which keeps tentions going on Israel's border and their close friendship with Iran.

Yes it helped these corporations. But it also saved millions of jobs. This economy would have completely sank if we couldn't borrow. No one would be buying cars, homes, furniture, appliances, boats, and etc. Can you even begin to imagine the people who would lose their job making, selling, transporting, and etc. these things. Your not looking at the whole picture, only one part of it.

That sounds good but not practical. We are fighting an unknown enemy here in our own back yard and all across the globe. They are continuously plotting ways to kill us, here and abroad. They wear no uniform and there is no way to really know who they are without the Patriot Act. I really haven't talked to one person who said they presonally has been effected by it.

 

Lol...Are you talking about Bush jr?
As for healthcare, it was you people who were shrieking hysterically about socialized medicine when Obama proposed the single payer option.

 

I am ashamed. I voted for Obama against McCain (and abstained during the next general election). At the time, it just seemed like McCain was itching to start another mid-East war, and I didn't want that. Come to think of it, I would have been ashamed to have voted for McCain or Romney as well. The only vote I have ever cast that I am proud of was my primary vote for Ron Paul. Every other vote I have cast, I have voted against someone, rather than for someone. When the election is between Satan and Beelzebub, of course you're going to be ashamed of your vote.

 

Europe has always been the big benefactors of Lybian oil. But because China has been trying to get oil where ever they can, I think they were sucking up to Libya
to sell a lot of oil to them. Notice the war with Libya was a NATO operation, which is made up of European nations. I think they wanted to topple the government to protect their part of Libyan oil and needed American help.


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Libyan strife exposes China's risks in global quest for oil

The evacuation of Chinese workers in Libya highlights Beijing's vulnerabilities as it partners with oil-rich regimes. Upheaval in Africa and the Middle East could force China to weigh political risks more carefully.

March 09, 2011|By David Pierson, Los Angeles Times





Reporting from Beijing — The Chinese construction workers and their families huddled inside their company's living compound in northeastern Libya, hiding from bands of rioters who were smashing cars and looting offices.

When the chaos subsided, the group of 930 migrants made a break for the open desert, starting a seven-day journey to the port of Benghazi, where a ship arranged by the Chinese government waited to take them home. As news of the exodus spread online, Chinese bloggers bestowed the nickname "Chinese Moses" on the plucky company manager who led the ragged group to safety.

 

How does that show that I don't understand the situation or the law?

Disagree. Obamacare is a piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) that written for the benefit of the insurance companies. The sooner the left swallows their pride and admits this, the sooner we can start recovering from all of the damage Obamacare has and will do to our country.

You're being extremely dishonest right now. Libya and Syria were not the only places. We've been committed to Afghanistan until the middle of the 2020's, we fund Israel and the Palestinians to murder each other more efficiently, you didn't mention our involvement in Egypt, the threatening of Syria and Iran, you're completely ignoring the illegal war we are engaging in in Pakistan that is murdering innnocent civilians every day, and you're delusional if you think that we "got the hell out of" Iraq.

That's an argument of dismissal logical fallacy. You didn't actually explain why I am wrong, you're simply asserting it.

Thanks for your opinion. What does that have to do with what I said?

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There are more than two sides of every election.

 

Your opinion is irrelevant to the fact that the military industrial complex benefits from war.

That's what happens when your economy is built on funny money with fractional reserve banking and a government that legislates in favor of Wall Street for a century. It's called a correction, and yes it probably would have been worse if we hadn't bailed out the banks. But it also probably would have been alot quicker, as would have the recovery. We'd likely be way better off than we are now, considering how slow and painful the recovery has been, with 95% of the wealth gains during the recovery have gone to the 1% and unemployment still excessive.

You do realize that the only thing this enemy wants is for us to destroy ourselves by elminating our freedom for security out of fear (terror), right?

Ever hear of Edward Snowden?

 

You can't blame me, I'm 18. But yeah there's a reason I wanted Gary Johnson to win.

 

Good point. There's hardly a discernible difference between him and Obama.

So what?

 

first we are not a democracy we are a constitutional republic learn the difference. second a democracy will always fail if the majority who vote are ignorant

 

Post Fail...Wrong we are a constitutional republic. In a democracy if 51% of the people wanted to execute people with blue eyes they could. We vote in a democratic process which many people confuse with a democracy. Im not surpised Obama voters dont know this as he doesnt either. He thinks he can just change laws all by himself.

 

Long, LONG way to go to catch the actual worst President in history, George Bush. The bar got set awfully low there and I doubt it'll ever be lower.