young girl molested, then punished for what happened to her

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A 14 year old girl.
    A man 3 times her age repeatedly tries to molest her everyday on her way home from school, girl complains to her parents.
    Finally, one day, the man has his way with her.
    When the issue is brought up to the community, guess what they do?

    The girl is accused of having sex with a married man.
    In full view of the community, the girl is whipped 70 times. Finally, bloody and bruised, her little frail body can take no more and collapses.
    She died in the hospital from the injuries inflicted on her.

    Sadly, these type of events are not that uncommon in the Asian country of Bangladesh, majority Muslim.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/29/bangladesh.lashing.death/index.html


    This story is definitely not isolated. It seems in that part of the world, the community oftentimes doesn't want to deal with the fact of what one of their men has done. So all the blame is put on the female victim. If a little girl gets raped, it must be her fault. Sometimes they stone the poor girl to death.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...es-sentence-Maldives-fornication-QUASHED.html
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4555734/Woman-19-sentenced-die-raped-Pakistan.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning_of_Aisha_Ibrahim_Duhulow
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ath-Mosul-punishment-committing-adultery.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/sep/17/pakistan.theobserver
     
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  2. Bowerbird

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    And you wonder why we defend womens rights?

    Why we do not like when people on this forum start talking about forcing women to carry babies to term, to be denied rights to thier own bodies

    Tell me, what essentially is the difference between "slut shaming" women having abortions and this sort of action?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh please... You automatically try to turn this around on conservatives?
    When have conservatives in the English-speaking world ever tried to slut shame a little girl for being raped?

    It's not as if these little girls were carousing around in a skimpy two piece trying to draw the attentions of men.
     
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    Did I mention conservatives??

    No I did not

    My answer was aimed at ANYONE of ANY party, colour, creed, religion who slut shames women having abortions

    Sorry but you are the one that has decided that the hat fits.............
     
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    roy moore is at it again?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You'll find that every time social conservatives have presented a bill trying to ban abortion, there is inevitably always an exception written in for rape. Isn't that quite telling?

    And yet you're still trying to draw a connection between punishment for abortion and punishment for being raped.

    The accusations were made public too late. It wouldn't have been fair to the election process to give the vote to the other side just because there were allegations that had recently been brought to light.

    He should be elected, and then, if there's enough evidence found behind the allegations, they can impeach him and choose a replacement.

    I can see many women on the Left are willing to turn a blind eye to the plight of women in the Muslim world. So much for upholding women's rights...

    (guess feminism is willing to toss a few million women under the bus if the ends justify the means)
     
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    Are they so very different? Who decides how impactful a forced pregnancy can be?

    The more interesting question is why you would automatically assume that when I used the term "slut shaming" I was talking about conservatives,

    Is this a conservative pattern of behaviour?
     
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    I wonder how much of this may be feminism focusing primarily on the interests of middle class women with high-powered careers, with less concern about poor women in Third World non-white countries.
     
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    We have to focus on ALL
    We cannot practice hypocrisy and decry the third world nations and the practices there whilst still demeaning women and denying them rights at home

    Tell me, do you know what the maternal mortality rate is in Texas as opposed to the rest of the developed world? Can you tell me what it is in Sierra Leone? Why is it different and why does it matter?
     
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    Easy to give lip service to equality, harder to put it into actual practice.

    I wonder, who will come to rescue these women and little girls?
     
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    Typical liberal, equating slut shaming with killing little girls for being raped. The reality is that abortion is killing little girls who have done nothing wrong. You are more like the community who killed this girl than you are a supporter of human rights. And personally, I have never seen any conservative slut shame any woman or girl, I've only seen liberals do it. Opposing abortion isn't slut-shaming any more than opposing Twinkies is fat-shaming.
     
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    Uh-huh... :roll:


    Trump Administration Tried to Stop Abortion for 17-Year-Old Rape Victim, Breaking With Obama and Bush Policy


    ICE *Accidentally* Left Out The Part Where It Tried To Force A Teenage Rape Victim To Give Birth


    Pro-life opponents slam Alabama court for letting a 12-year-old rape victim get an abortion

     
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    The Countries mentioned in the O.P. are bastions of Civil Rights and fully support freedom and liberty !

    Sarcasm in effect.
     
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    Will it be the same ones who are currently slut shaming women having abortions??

    Personally I think it is just a matter of degree between that and a young girl in a remote village beating abused. It is unfortunate and it HAPPENS and not just Muslim countries

    At the moment -- girls as young as 12 have to get married in Myanmar just to get food to eat. Nearly 7.000 have been killed in Rohingya but let us not mention them as they are Muslims
     
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    You APPROVE of slut shaming??
     
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    :roll: Is that what you got from my post? I hope the home they keep you in is nice. :no:
     
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    the reason Mary had to marry Joseph when she was 12 or 13 was because if she did not, she would of been stoned for being an unwed mother

    religion has some weird views on marriage

    traditional marriage?

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy 22:28-29&version=NIV

     
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    What the hell does your post have to do with the OP


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    sounds like your biased, both religious have their stupid believers in them

    thankfully most in both religions are just normal people trying to live their lives the best they can and not trying to force their beliefs on others
     
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    Although there is an ethical gap between what this girl suffered and what can be forced on women - I really do not see the gap as being that chasmic

    Forcing women to continue a pregnancy against her wishes is not much beyond the pressures put on young women in third world countries - Muslim, Hindi, Rohingyan, Vietnamese Sudanese etc. Throughout the world women are regarded as second class citizens that can be forced to another's will.

    The Alt right in America is very put out by this of course and take every opportunity to demean and attempt to demoralise women

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    This has nothing to do with conservatives or liberals, democrats or republicans. It has everything to do with the ignorant and culturally backwards people in Pakistan. (and Somalia, Ethiopia, Egypt, Saudi Arabia or whatever snake hole they exist in)
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    Talking about culturally ignorant

    Did you miss the bit where this was in Bangladesh? Which last time I looked at a map was NOT Pakistan:roll::roll::roll:
     
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    Duplicate post
     
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    Yes, Bowerbird, it was both Pakistan and Bangladesh, after all.

    So who were you calling culturally ignorant Bowerbird ?
    Seems like you owe someone an apology.
     
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    The difference is one of severity. Slut shaming is protected (albeit unreasonable and decidedly cruel) freedom of expression, while rape is unlawful physical violence, and Shariah Law is the institutionalization of said violence for the purpose of enslaving women.

    Raising awareness of slut-shaming as a potential lead-in to Shariah would be more effective in a forum that isn't already calling Islam out on its barbarism toward women.

    Doing so here has the optics of attempting to misdirect discussion away from the poibt at hand- while our culture is not as accepting of certain facets of a sexually 'laizais faire' lifestyle as a tolerant and civil society should be, its a veritable sexual utopia compared to Islamic cultures.
     
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