Youtube to remove extremist sites

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    have have no idea what your talking about.... but if someone did that here to another poster, they to would be banned
     
  2. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not in the contact of promoting the hate and violence, two different things
     
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    A monetized service for voluntary users includes utilities like electricity.

    Net neutrality rules has even been taking the internet itself towards being a utility.

    Like it or not, the "public square" argument holds water.

    The only regulation of social media platforms should be laws. Either material posted to the internet is legal, or it is illegal. That's as far as censorship should go.

    Censorship tools should be placed in the hands of the USER, not the platform.
     
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    His actions are the reason for this discussion.

    It seems like the more you side with the left the less complaints are going to be taken seriously.

    Carlos Maza is a contributor for an organization called the Vox. He has an extreme left-wing leaning slant and another YouTube contributor called louder with Crowder often does analysis on Maza's topics. Crowder has a conservative lean mazza has a progressive lean. Instead of rebutting the critiques of louder with Crowder, Maza decided to report Crowder for hateful speech.

    You should really try and understand this if you're going to comment on the subject.
     
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    disagree
     
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    And such censorship is why platforms like this are failing.
     
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    And has called for people to be assaulted using the same platform he's crying on about being bullied.
     
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    you can make this claim if you want but you will have to show that they do not platform any political parties or any Politicians running for office. And you also have to show that they received no tax subsidies.

    If you can't I stand by my position they are not a private platform.
    Know the major problem is that many of them are becoming an oligopoly. As social media becomes more of a place for commerce, the power that these tech Giants have to the person somebody is greater and greater.

    I know for a fact Twitter platforms Donald Trump. That right there alone makes it a public platform. By denying people access one could argue that they are preventing them from engaging and political discussion which is a violation of the First Amendment.

    If they don't want to provide a platform for politicians that's fine. But they do.
     
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    With what specifically? Why and how do you disagree?
     
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    Bullies often cry about being bullied.
     
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    Especially since they ruled the POTUS can't block people on Twitter.
     
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    People don't understand the importance of this. If political discourse occurs in social media when you ban someone from social media you are necessarily removing them from political discourse.
     
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    No they wouldnt at most the post would be deleted. Also I might add carlos's Twitter is @gaywonk and has referred to himself has a queer and gay multiple times. Also lgbtQ is how they like to be described. So queer is not an offensive term.
     
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    "It seems like the more you side with the left the less complaints are going to be taken seriously."

    I disagree with that
     
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    Okay why? Show me how someone who can call for violence and post hatred can accuse other people of that and the people he accuses gets punished and he does not?
     
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    I do not know the guy, if what you say is true, he shoudl be banned too

    the name calling using a derogatory term probably did the other in - violated the TOS

    as I said, never listened to either of them and do not care too
     
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    Too, as in also?

    No he should be banned and the people that he wants to be banned should not be, the opposite of that is happening.

    and before you say you disagree your this agreement has no validity by your own admission you have no knowledge of the subject.

    You didn't know who the actors were in the conflict.

    Before you run your mouth you should educate yourself so as not to look foolish.
     
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    he's talking about an incident that has occurred on YouTube. if you don't know anything about it you really can't have an opinion that's informed.
    The problem is the opposite is occurring on YouTube. The people inciting violence which is actually criminal are not getting reprimanded, the people they are attacking are getting reprimanded.

    If you don't know anything about the subject You can disagree all day long but you don't know what you're disagreeing with. You are just making a knee-jerk reaction.
     
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    Not needing information to form an opinion is a hallmark of the left.
     
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    More than that the Hallmark of bias. I don't think what's going on here is that he doesn't know what we're talking about I think he knows exactly what we're talkin about. it's just that YouTube is in the wrong what they're doing is transparent no one can deny it once they know all the details, and there's people that support what they're doing.

    This to me is terrifier more than the secret fourth Reich that seems to be probably just under the surface if you talk to a leftist.

    This reminds me of early 20th century Russia something called the Bolshevik revolution.

    I'm starting to think this whole not see thing is to take focus off of the real problem. Only people trying to prevent a Nazi esque regime would vote for a Bolshevik regime.
     
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    All it takes is for some leftist to call someone a "nazi" or one of their other trigger words and their Pavlovian conditioning kicks in.

    They don't need to know details when their target is a "nazi", after all.

    They don't see the irony in their own Nazi-like behavior.
     
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    No it's not pavlovian, it's deliberate. It's really puritanical in a sense. I've heard it referred to is disgust based thinking.

    that's why you see people who claim to be uninformed trying to act as though they are informed.
     
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    I dunno, there's definitely some conditioning involved there. I mean look where people are turned into leftists....colleges.

    Watch the videos of the Kavanaugh stuff again and the zombie-like repeating of chants.
     
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    Hell! Let’s promote hate for idiots blowing up federal buildings to make a point. Let’s hate teaching children how to kill Jews with AK 47s. Let’s leap piles of scorn and disgust upon monsters that slaughter their co-workers. There is plenty on this planet to hate, and stomp out of existence. Hate is an emotion, not a sin; violence is an action,, not a vice.
     
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    Good. Life was nicer in the 1950's with dial phones and only about 180 million people in the USA. The US government should have spent the last 60 years extending that good life to minorities and the poor.
     

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