Zimbabwe's latest crisis

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  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    A white person who self designates as christian in america generally translates as "unashamed racist" in english.
     
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    Really? Do you have anything to back up that claim?
     
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    They all idolize a white washed version of the messiah.
     
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    Nonesense. The tribes were driven out of natal by slave raiding whites from the south and east coast. The zulu were a small unit whom united the scattered tribes in order to crush the white slavers and thieves.
     
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    Interesting. I know a lot of African American, Hispanic, and White Christians and they all seem to have the same ideas on the messiah.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When reading about the Comanches i found out that captives were always killed by native Americans, and it could be very tortuous and inhumane depending on the savagery of the tribe. One poster said his grandfather and others were so sickened by the screams at night of those being tortured, that they killed them all.

    I'm not condemning native Americans, since pre Christian Europe was no different. If the Spanish committed crimes - which they did of course, in comparison they had to have been miniscule to those who lacked the boundaries of a Christian/Judaic world. So let's not romanticize.


    Alexa I have news for you, no matter what people do and what the emissions are, it will not have the affect that one large volcanic eruption will have like the one in 536AD. It darkened the skies in the northern hemisphere, and threw the world into the dark ages for decades. This is what started the invasions for survival that destroyed the Western Roman Empire.

    The earth has been heating up for quite a few years now, and not because of what we're doing, (
    that is, with the exception of destroying the natural order by our sins). It has to do with the Sun's flare ups and plasma and how it affects the earth. Other than the many earthquakes going on all over the globe, there are at least 3 new volcanic eruptions every day. What's worse for us in the US, is that there are hotspots around old volcanic fields in the US, and that's why fires are breaking out. I fear worse!


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    Indeed. Which proves "african americans" and "hispanics" are not racists. Whites are the only ones who refuse to worship a messiah who is NOT white.
     
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    If the Inquisitors could not obtain a confession from a suspected heretic, they employed torture to extract one. Interestingly, as gruesome as these tortures were, they were designed not to spill blood, a practice forbidden under Christian law. In the rope torture, for example, the victim's hands were tied behind him, and the rope was connected to a pulley. Weights were attached to the victim’s legs, and he was raised to the ceiling. When he was suddenly lowered, his arms and legs were painfully dislocating. The water torture consisted of laying a wet cloth over the prisoner's mouth and nostrils and running a small stream down his throat. As the victim gagged and pulled the cloth into his throat, it was yanked away, causing excruciating pain. Torture by fire was also employed, in which the victim’s feet were smeared with a flammable material and held near a fire, causing a slow, painful burning. If the accused fainted during interrogation, a physician standing nearby revived him; if the official administering the torture caused the victim to die, he was not held responsible. Overall, no person was safe from the clutches of the Inquisition — even children and pregnant women underwent these horrific tortures
     
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    Spanish cruelty was miniscule jeanette?


    2,000 Hebrew children aged two to twelve were forcibly separated from their parents. In a chilling act of incomprehensible cruelty, João shipped them off to the uninhabited equatorial island of São Tomé off the coast of west Africa and abandoned them on shore. Later Portuguese expeditions would reveal that only some 600 survived.
     
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    LOL. I just told you all demographics of Christians in the pretty big part of the US I’m familiar with worship the same messiah. I don’t know a single Christian of any “race” that even cares what color the messiah was.

    Just out of curiosity, do you think it’s statements like this that make White Christians look racist?

    “See, Barack been, um, talking down to black people on this faith-based – I wanna cut his nuts out. … Barack – he’s talking down to black people -- telling n------s how to behave.”
     
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    @Spooky
    @Jeannette
    et al

    Manure I would not put on my vegetable garden

    Try search "white farmer" Zimbabwe and get some NOT P.C. facts.
    Then check out "white farmer" and South Africa.
    Surprise! It's Zimbabwe all over again.


    BTW if you had to live in a Black Africa nation and not the capitol,
    which would you choose?
    Years ago I would have said Kenya but, I understand they are
    similarly breaking down too.


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    You believing you know more than the best scientists in the world about their business just lets me know how you see yourself. Not worth discussing. sad but not worth discussing. Same with most of what you have said in this thread.
     
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    Esau, I attached a neat map of the Bantu/Zulu migration to the Cape, but I can't find it
    now. Can you attach that map on a reply to me?
    Actually, Africans kept Africans as slaves. Arabs had African slaves. Arabs had white
    slaves. Aztecs made every enemy a slave. Jews were slaves in Egypt. Jews kept
    slaves too. Most of Sparta was slave.
    Been reading about the British War in Zanzibar in 1896, the "world's shortest war" and
    it was to stop the Zanzibar slave trade. The famous story of the killer lions of Tsavo in
    Kenya was about lions which ate people discarded from Arab slave trader caravans. The
    British stopped this slave trade.

    It's all complicated.

    Zulus began their murderous march by driving out or killing native South Africans. I
    doubt they had even seen a white person when they formed their first 'impi.'
     
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    Which proves "african americans" and "hispanics" are not racists in that they are happy to worship a [false] white messiah. How many white christians do you know worship the black messiah? Exactly. Which proves my original point. The colour of Jesus is EVERYTHING to american christians.
     
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    Its not complicated at all. You try to complicate it by inventing myths like mfecane but the reality is as simple as it appears. White [slavers] invaded the cape and the east looking for humans to enslave and gold to steal. The zulu were the only nation capable of withstanding the white hoardes and eventually took their nation back thanks to mandela etc. Youre just mad that you couldnt turn south africa into another america. You nearly did it but good eventually overcomes evil.
     
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    There is no law against spilling blood in Christianity. Only a law against killing since a person's soul and their eternal destiny is paramount. The longer a person lives, the greater their chance to repent and unite with their Creator after death.
    Sounds like projection, or someone wants to attribute the civil punishments towards a dissident group in a certain era to the Catholic Church. By doing so, they're discarding the Churches civilizing aspect in a very pagan world. Considering that most of our history was written by Protestants who had their own grievances, I would question what they wrote, especially when considering that with the exception of Ireland, the English managed to convert all of Britain in 100 years.

    This was
    something that even the Turks weren't able to do in the Balkans in 400 years - and they certainly weren't known for their humanity.


    In another post you said American Christians are racist, but cultural and racial supremacism has always been a Western trait and has nothing to do with Christianity. That the most devout Christians in the US are Blacks, should speak volumes. The problem with most Christians is that they can't understand their faith outside of their own upbringing and so they try to impose their own traditions on others. This is known as fundamentalism and it is considered spiritual immaturity.
     
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    And that is unfortunate as it's a beautiful continent.

    I can't see any solutions though, maybe someone else can.
     
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    Make'm colonies again
    for their own benefit.

    Reestablish White Rule
     
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    It was miniscule compared to pre Christian cruelty. Everything is relative.
     
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    And by this logic the Americans invaded France in 1945 to establish American rule
    in Western Europe, carving it in two with the Soviets.
    Sure, there were white slavers, just as there's black slavers, and brown slavers.
    White slavers did not need to invade a country for slaves, they just bought them off
    African and Arab slavers.
     
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    The Spanish Inquisition killed about a million people - but over 600 years and many
    countries. Stalin and Mao could kill that many every week - and without the option of
    repentance.
     
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    That might work if it was 1947 but today most ppl realize that the white jesus [white saviour] was a hoax.
     
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    The white slavers in africa offered a bounty to african princes for human cargo yes its true. The point being that africans or asians never practiced race based chattel slavery, the epitome of evil practice. Only whites indulged in such inhuman societies, for 400 years no less. Are you proud of that?
     
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    Please provide some evidence the color of Jesus is everything to American Christians. You are just repeating an unsubstantiated opinion. Nothing I’ve said proves African Americans or Hispanics believe Jesus was white.

    The big question is why does it matter to you what color anybody, including a messiah, is? That’s what’s most interesting. You can’t provide evidence it matters to anyone but you.
     
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    The only proof required right now is that you would worship a black messiah
     
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