Zimmerman Trial (Friday July 12th) ~ Continued MOD ALERT

Remember when the media edited the tape in the beginning to make it sound like GZ said coon? This was when they were still calling GZ white and showing photos of TM when he was 12. This was a manufactured story from the beginning.

 

Why do you keep saying that? It's beginning to look disturbing...

 

It does look that way.

 

I've seen delusional people before, but you take the cake. Really? Trayvon knew that Zimmerman was gonna come after him and f*** him up?

Let's see - a can of soda vs a gun? Wow. Pathetic. F*** you b****.

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Ya think? and why is it disturbing?

 

Fishing expedition (AKA Nonsense)

 

Because it has been answered and you keep clinging to this question as if you are making some sort of point.

 

What's inconsistent about it ? I don't see anything inconsistent.

 

Yes, I want to know what crime was committed here. If I go to the store and buy some things, why should I have to die for it? Because some idiot thinks I look suspicious?

I gave you the 911 tapes from Zimmerman's mouth. What crime was being committed by Martin at that time? Tell me. What was Martin accused of by Zimmerman? Why was Martin followed? I presented you with Zimmerman's own words. I gave you live testimony in Zimmerman's words. What was the crime committed by Martin at the time of the 911 call?

 

You mean factual and logical. If Martin was sitting at a 45 degree angle leaning over Zimmerman, it is absolutely impossible to fire a 90 degree shot with a shirt extended 4 inches away from the body needing to move his left hand away to fire the shot.

 

Whatever his actions were years ago, within the last 2 years, he has been doing a community service without pay, and should be praised for that. FOR THAT, yes, classy guy. Absolutely.

 

I feel like this argument is circular and will never be resolved. If you go to the store and at some point decide to beat on someone, whether they were following you or not, you might end up getting shot and maybe dying as a result. You seem to be hanging on to this delusion that TM did not pound on GZ before he was shot. Even if that is not the way it went down, there is no evidence otherwise.

I guess I'm just very confused as to what your angle is here. Can you spell out exactly what you believed happened and any evidence presented thus far to support this belief?

 

Following a suspect is standard security procedure. It's part of Observe & Report. And defining someome as a "suspect" has noting to do with a crime being committed. See Post # 370 in >> http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...9855-zimmerman-critics-read-mod-alert-37.html

Challenging suspects is standard as well. It would help if people knew at least the basics about security before posting.

 

Oh cool- thanks for that! So I can go kill someone that I obviously started a fight with and get off with it? Cool! You won't mind if I do the same, right? So, I can start a fight with you for no reason, kill you and get away with it? Sweet! Bring it! Are you serious? Wow.

You have just told me that I can kill you if I feel just a bit threatened. And it's legal. Cool. Actually, I can hunt you down, threaten you and if you fight back I can kill you: that is, unless you kill me first.

Are you people brain dead?

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Except for the fact that the kid was doing nothing wrong. Oh, whoops! You forgot about that. And exactly what did the dead kid instigate again? Oh wait, nothing. Zimmerman just thought he might be scary.

 

I could have sworn that the only ballistics expert interviewed stated that GZ's accounting was completely plausible.

You explain to meet how it went down. If you can't, we still hang our hat on the two words - reasonable doubt.

 

Ok so now I get it. You subscribe to hood logic. You think that following someone is starting a fight. Hood logic states that you don't allow anyone to "disrespect" you. The same thinking that creates violent confrontations out of nothing. If I bump into you or step on your Jordan's, you have the right to pound me. After all, I "started it" didn't I? Hey kid, this is the real world and not a video game or a movie.

 

Where do you get the idea that Zimmerman started the fight ?

I already answered that in the link which you failed to include in your quote. Conveniently deleted it ? Go reread Post # 437. The WHOLE thing.

If you were less concerned with being cute (like this >> "Oh wait, nothing") and more concerned with your CONTENT, you just might come up with a sensible post, instead of stumbling in here and making a fool out of yourself. Remember >> CONTENT trumps FORM.

 

I don't know about you, but someone following me is scary. I'm a 46 year old white guy in advertising. If someone starts to follow me on the street, I'm gonna be a little freaked out. Actually, a LOT of freaked out. Tell me you would not feel the same way. If I don't assume the worst, I'm the idiot.

Granted, I'm a big guy. But still, that's not OK. And if I saw a guy like Zimmerman following me (gross, out of shape, and looking like a loser) I'm gonna take every precaution I can. Sorry, but Zimmerman looks like a creep to me. He looks like a criminal.

BTW- I have lived in Chicago for 20 years. I love this town. Here's me recently.

 

OK. So you're freaked out. So ?

 

So would you then turn around and beat the snot of them? I think you believe that GZ attacked first because TM attacking him unprovoked makes no sense to you. It makes complete sense when you take into context the world these young urban kids grow up in. Fights break out over very trivial things. I've lived in these neighborhoods and now I am thankfully safe and sound in the suburbs.

I believe TM chose to beat on GZ because he felt disrespected. You believe, well.... None of us have any idea what you believe. All you keep saying is what crime was TM committing. I would surmise felony assault. Either way, the jury has the evidence that they have. If they come back with any other than not guilty, they are not following their jury instructions. Reasonable doubt has not nearly been overridden.

 

Yeah, so why is somebody following me for no reason? Maybe they want to rob me or worse? Should Martin have thought otherwise?

 

I'd be so freaked myself to tell the truth. In fact, rather than get to the safety of my home a half minute away I'd make sure it took 4 (four minutes) minutes to do so and, stop along the way to turn and ask the guy what his problem was as running to that safe place called home would be just to easy.

 

Be honest, that's a picture of the guy from Future Weapons. Lol

 

Did you listen to the 911 call? Was someone being assaulted? No. Wow. No wonder we have trouble in this country.

 

I really dont see how they can get him or murder I mean who really plans to kill someone then calls the police on themselves before they kill the guy. However manslaughter is a distinct possibility. For me it comes down to was the shooting justified in accordance to the law or not? acquit or manslaughter I dont know enough to chose from those two but from what i know and have heard you can not say beyond a reasonable doubt Zimmerman had intent to murder from the start.

I say he will get manslaughter 10 to 20 years.

 

And again I ask you, what crime was Trayvon Martin committing at the time of the 911 call? I'm sorry, I'm missing it. Zimmerman said nothing about it. What exactly did Trayvon Martin do to deserve to be followed by a guy with a gun?

Answer? Nothing. I posted Zimmerman's 911 call for all of you. Stop making this a right vs left thing. It's not. Good lord, everything is not right vs left.