Zimmerman tries to sell gun used to kill Trevon

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What the hell is wrong with people. Who would want that?

    https://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/bu...e-zimmermans-gun-used-to-kill-trayvon-martin/

    A link to the auction where buyers could purchase the gun is now disabled.

    According to News6, the Kel-Tec PF-9 handgun that Zimmerman used to shoot and kill Martin in 2012 was supposed to go up for bids on the site GunBroker.com.

    But the auction was pulled from the website Thursday morning. Now, a message comes up that says, “Sorry, but the item you have requested is no longer in the system.” GunBroker’s social media accounts on Facebook and Twitter have also been either disabled or made private.

    Zimmerman was acquitted of killing Martin in 2013, which galvanized a contemporary racial justice movement in the United States.

    Zimmerman had bragged that the weapon that killed Martin was a “piece of American history.” The auction was set to open with a minimum bid of $5,000.
     
  2. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    Considering the amount of debt George Zimmerman accumulated in being subjected to a needless and politically motivated trial, it would make sense. A one million dollar legal bill just to prove you are not guilty of what was not even a crime is very difficult to surmount.
     
  3. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The gun itself is a lousy Kel-Tec. Even though I own another tiny Kel-Tec---they are a generally a poor choice for a medium or large handgun.

    Save your money and buy a Glock or Sig or S&W or HK or Kimber, etc., etc.....
     
  4. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Due process can be expensive. It would have been cheaper for him to avoid contact. I agree with the jury, but he is still a dumba$$ and does not represent responsible gun owners.
     
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    Lousy but it worked when needed.
     
  6. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Buy all you want. I can drive a nail with a rock, but I'd much rather use a good hammer.
     
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    $200 Kel Tec in the hand is better then a $1100 Les Baer in the safe any day.
     
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    As long as we, as a society, have learned this valuable lesson:

    Whenever someone is smashing your head into the concrete, calmly phone 911 and wait for police to arrive. They are trained professionals, who are here to protect you. After all, why should two people be hurt, when we can limit it to one?
     
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    Why would the Les Baer be in the Safe and not in a holster over a Kel Tec ????
    I don't get it........
     
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    Other valuable lessons well learned:

    1. Let someone else be Neighborhood watch

    2. Don't ask what anyone is doing in your Neighborhood

    3. Be careful what you say whenever you call 911

    4. Don't oppress anybody !!!
     
  11. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My sentiments precisely.

    While I feel sorry for his death, his actions went a long way to making Zimmerman defend himself.

    He might hand it to a family member for the sale.
     
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    I don't sorrow for him, he asked for it.....
    Well, he got it.....

    **************************

    " What we've got here is... failure to communicate.

    Some men you just can't reach.

    So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it...
    well, he gets it.

    I don't like it any more than you men."

    Kool hand Luke.....
     
  13. FreshAir

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    your kidding right, Zimmerman's actions were what caused Martin to defend himself...

    Zimmerman said if he could go back in time and change it, he would not, he said God wanted him to kill Martin that night

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  14. DoctorWho

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    Martin attacked Zimmerman because of being asked what he was doing, how does that qualify as
    defending himself ???

    Anyway, you obviously disagree with the Court's verdict in this case.

    And if Zimmerman made that statement, about God wanting him to kill Martin, he is delusional...
     
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    Unreasonably expensive, especially when it is in relation to malicious and politically motivated prosecution.

    Except it was proven that he was not given a choice in the matter.

    Just as Trayvon Martin does not represent all black minors.
     
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    according to the killer?
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    We have been over this before. Multiple times in fact. Trayvon Martin was well on his way home after his encounter with George Zimmerman, by the time he decided to go back and confront him. This was pointed out at trial.

    And many have claimed that committing crimes against innocent bystanders is justice for Trayvon Martin. Precisely what is the point?
     
  18. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was proven beyond a reasonable doubt that it was self defense, however, no reasonable person would say that he didn't have a choice. He could have kept his distance, stayed in his car, or anything other than confronting a stranger. I am not a fan of Trayvon either, but I do understand why people pushed for prosecution.

    Would you buy his gun?
     
  19. Robert

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    You have it backwards. Zimmerman was defending himself. Martin was much taller and beating up Zimmerman.

    That is why the Jury did not convict.

    If the charge misses, you can't convict.
     
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    Except that he did not. He was assaulted, knocked to the ground, straddled, and had his head repeatedly slammed against the pavement, by someone who was already home by the time he decided that it was a good idea to go back and confront a total stranger.

    Just as Trayvon Martin could have stayed home rather than going out for snacks, called the police rather than his girlfriend, or gone straight home rather than deciding that he had no choice but to confront George Zimmerman.

    Because the black community threatened violence if the incident did not result in a prosecution.

    Prior to or after reading customer reviews on the quality of the particular firearm, and knowing that there are better models available at comparable prices?
     
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    Read the Florida statute and tell us how following someone constitutes justifiable self defense by TM.

    "776.012 Use or threatened use of force in defense of person.—
    (1) A person is justified in using or threatening to use force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force. A person who uses or threatens to use force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat before using or threatening to use such force."

    Following someone while talking to police on the phone is not imminent use of unlawful force.


    Even if use of force was justified, beating His head on the sidewalk is deadly force and is not justified according to this statute.
    He was using unlawful deadly force, which is why he was lawfully shot.
     
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    well at least we agree, z is no better then them......

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    try stalking a women jogger late at night like z did martin and see if it gets you maced
     
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    Your right, because the law refers to something called disparity of force. Men are generally bigger and stronger than women, and it is assumed the man can easily over power the woman.
    Your argument falls apart if the woman is a fit bodybuilder and the man is a frail 85 year old.

    The fact is there was no disparity of force between Martin and Zimmerman. His actions of self defense because he was being followed were not justified.

    The proper action would have been to call police. Oh wait.... Zim was already talking to them on the phone.
     
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    FreshAir;

    Zimmerman did not stalk Martin, and Martin was not a jogger late at night.....

    Supposedly, Zimmerman of the Neighborhood Watch thought Martin did not live there.
     
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    Z had a gun and was stalking a teenager at night..... not smart and sadly a teen is dad and z's life is ruined because of it

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    yes Z was stalking Martin, where you been? try to keep up...
     

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