Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Ha

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Oh I assure you I didn't plan on it, but he STILL might be President again and if he misrepresented himself the voting public should know.
     
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    And now you just throw stuff against the wall hoping it will stick. SOMEBODY told them he was born in Kenya and why didn't he raise it as an issue then.
     
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    Even born in Hawaii, he never disputed his bio but used it to his advantage which makes him the liar Rev. Wright said he is.
     
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    If that is what he did he, like Warren, should issue an apology for possibly denying a deserving student that slot.
     
  5. Radio Refugee

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    ...and you and the drone squad have your life raft, your rationalization, your solution to the cognitive dissonance. Keep this technique well honed. You've needed it a dozen times with Scumbag-in-Chief and you'll need it two dozen more before November.
     
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    Huh?

    Warren has doubled down, which every tribal member knows is a blackjack phrase.
     
  7. Windigo

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    I don't believe that the editor remembers every single thing that she received 20 years ago. Its too specific. I believe the person who said that people normally reviewed their own bios because its a more general question that one could acculturate answer 20 years later.

    You seem to be desperately trying to move this back to your comfortable birther ground. We are arguing if Obama lied about his nationality to get special treatment when he was younger. Are you affraid to argue that Obama lied to get special treatment?
     
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    Except to those of us who downloaded the provided PDF copy, opened it in Photoshop and
    now know it is an amateurish forgery.

    Go ahead, check for yourself - I'd LOVE for you to show me where and why I am mistaken.

    LMHO

    How long was it before some of you stop believing in Santa Claus?
     
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    ABC has learned that Arizona's Secretary of State Ken Bennett asked Hawaii's Dept Of Health 8 weeks ago to get him Obama's birth documents in order to verify he is a natural born Citizen before going on the ballot this fall. Hawaii has not responded at all. He asked if they had a certified copy of his certificate of live birth on file. They won't respond. This scenario is fixing to get interesting. I mean, we have a legitiment Secretary of the State of Arizona asking for a simple task to be done by the Hawaiian Dept of Health and they don't reply. This is troubling, especially after what was discovered and released yesterday from Breitbarts team showing that in 1991 Obama presented himself as Kenyan Born shopping for a publisher for his autobiography. What if Hawaii is unable to respond because they don't have any vital records or that the vital records (abstract long form bc) they have doesn't match what Obama released last April 27, 2011?


    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...ate-wants-to-see-proof-of-obamas-citizenship/

    In a radio interview today, Bennett said he is just doing his job of making sure “that those people whose names are on the ballot have met the qualifications for the office they are seeking.” He says he has been trying for eight weeks to get documents from Hawaii.

    In a statement just released, Bennett says:


    “First, I have been on the record since 2009 that I believe the president was born in Hawaii. I am not a birther. At the request of a constituent, I asked the state of Hawaii for a verification in lieu of a certified copy. We’re merely asking them to officially confirm they have the president’s birth certificate in their possession and are awaiting their response.”
     
  10. SFJEFF

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    And you and the Birthers have nothing but speculation, innuendo and lies.....

    Unlike you and the Birthers- when the President is sworn in in 2013, i will call him President no matter who he is.
     
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    I prefer to believe in real authorities, not amatuer sleuth hour:

    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf

    HONOLULU – The Hawai„i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.
    “We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai„i.”
     
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    So you are chosing what to believe. And you believe the vaguer speculation rather than someone who remembers it. Okay. Me- i will go with the simpler explanation by the person who claims to know what happened rather than the one who is just guessing.


    You are not arguing anything. You are speculating. You are using speculation and innuendo rather than facts to try to smear President Obama.

    You want to have an argument about whether President Obama lied to get special treatment?

    Make a clear concise statement of the facts that makes you believe that President Obama lied to get special treatment.

    Because you haven't done so yet. You are piling speculations on speculations. "if this happened, then that might also have happened' is not an argument, it is the beginning of a novel.
     
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    HI needs to put up. Bennett's request is a valid one.
     
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    What journals? This is was a promotional pamphlet. And the man who spoke with Breitbart said this:
    He indicated that while "almost nobody" wrote his or her own biography, the non-athletes in the booklet, whom "the agents deal[t] with on a daily basis," were "probably" approached to approve the text as presented.

    Considering that the year before every magazine who talked about Barack Obama said he was born in Hawaii, and 2005 this same publisher published his book saying he was born in Hawaii....

    Well....why on earth do you think that Barack Obama would chose this one obscure promotional pamphlet to announce he was born in Kenya, when every other place he says he was born in Hawaii?
     
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    [/QUOTE]

    Considering I have seen several Birthers get confused by references to Barack Obama Sr. being born in Kenya as being references to Barack Obama Jr., it would not surprise me if someone made the same mistake in 1991.

    After all Barack Obama was born in Kenya. Just not the Barack Obama who is our President.
     
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    Considering I have seen several Birthers get confused by references to Barack Obama Sr. being born in Kenya as being references to Barack Obama Jr., it would not surprise me if someone made the same mistake in 1991.

    After all Barack Obama was born in Kenya. Just not the Barack Obama who is our President.[/QUOTE]How would the agent have known where his father was from if she never knew Obama?
     
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    Now you are just speculating. You assume that someone told him he was born in Kenya rather than someone making a mistake. You assume that Obama knew or that Obama cared.

    My speculation is as valid as your guesses.

    The only facts we really know are these:
    In 1990 multiple magazine articles had bio's of Barack Obama, and spoke of his being born in Hawaii.
    In 1991 an obscure promotional pamphet lists him as being born in Kenya.
    In 2005, Barack Obama's book was published where he himself says he was born in Hawaii.
    And in 2011 the State of Hawaii confirmed that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

    Why didn't Obama raise this as an issue then? This is again speculation- maybe he did- maybe he didn't- you don't know, I don't know. Maybe its all part of the conspiracy? Oh thats speculation too....
     
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    How would the agent have known where his father was from if she never knew Obama?[/QUOTE]

    Who says she never knew Obama?

    Here is what she said:

    You’re undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time. There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more.
     
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    Who says she never knew Obama?

    Here is what she said:

    You’re undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time. There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more.[/QUOTE]

    Fine. Do splain, how and who listed Obama's papa as a foreign minister? I've no doubts you can, jeff :)
     
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    You're striving to present yourself as a logical man, jeff - i submit to you the reason Obama did not raise the issue 'cos it was himself who "padded up" his resume... do prove me wrong with facts, please?
     
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    Pretty sure of that are ya.What about his Father,and Step-Grandmother.Or his half-brother
    Abongo.Why did Obama even bother to go to Kenya in the summer of 2006.
    he went with his wife and daughters and was photographed planting an
    Afrikan olive tree in Nairobi.He has Kenyan roots.Brothers and Sisters there.
    One reason there was a huge celebration in Western Kenya on November 5th.
    You aren't Naive are ya.?
     
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    Probably the same reason they said Iraq had nukes and it wasn't true.
     
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    That's right and a very important point.Most scuttlebut has Obama as a Foreign Student.
    Fulbright scholarships are never given out to anyone who isn't a foreign exchange
    applicant.This explains Obama unheard of mandate that ALL his personals be SEALED.
    Including his Kintergarten application.
    Because once it's out that he got a scholarship for being a Foreign Exchange student,
    then there's a base.A base of checking his SS# and Visa application and then
    Passport validity.
     
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    Obama needs to explain this and the mainstream media needs to insist on an explanation. Obama needs to unseal all his records and come clean with the American people. We should not have to put up with all this secrecy.
     
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    No, Obama does not need to appease the nutjob fringe conspiracy theorists.

    He should continue to ignore them- just like Romney does- as both men keep their records sealed simply by doing nothing.
     
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