Wisconsin Recall Tom Barrett Aggressively Goes After Scott Walker In First Face-Off

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  1. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    I'll bet you voted for Bush and the neocons and will vote for Romney ... looks good in the beginning until debt and bankruptcy sets in and the Koch Brothers and other *unknown outside corps.* walk with billions and stick you with the flotsam and jetsam ... then laugh at you because you trusted 'em ...
     
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    Better check the HufPo/Kos/WTF style book. This is currently "Koch suckers". And really, it doesn't make you look any more foolish.
     
  3. ptif219

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    ptif219 Well-Known Member

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    You are correct. I still have relatives in Wisconsin including my Mom and Brother and Sister. Everything you say is completely accurate and I thank you for a useful post
     
  5. ptif219

    ptif219 Well-Known Member

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    You show you know nothing about what is going on in Wisconsin. Your partisan rhetoric is well noted
     
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    As opposed to the partisan rag you copy and paste to these forums 10 to 12 times daily?
     
  7. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    No sweat ... break-it down to me starting with Walkers' Jobs creations ...
     
  8. ptif219

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    http://legis.wisconsin.gov/senate/sen11/news/press/20120525 job growth numbers.htm

     
  9. Agent_286

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    1) Yes I do. I offered this article that never mentioned a poll, and if you cannot answer my article, then start one of your own but please do not go off topic with your answers from a biased site.

    2) Sorry, the theme of my article is the intense out-of-state Koch Brothers money poured into Walker's recall attempt, and the inferior resources open to his Democratic opponent but the intense amount of work the Wisconsin people have put into the Walker recall.

    3) Again, start your own article on the polls connected with the Giov. Walker recall.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's up to the folk in Wisconsisn,not some unhinged nationalized Union bunch of thugs
    to decide how their state should be run.Whether or not during Hard Times their state is
    gonna have higher taxes in oder to benefir basically Unionized workers with better and
    increasingly more unfair benefit packages.
     
  11. ptif219

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    Huffington? [​IMG]
    And you call my site biased. get real. i showed Walker is ahead in the polls which is about Walker. That is on topic showing how bogus your article is.


    What about the out of state union money. It is so bad the national democrat party is out of it

    You can cry all you want but I just showed you had a biased bogus OP
     
  12. exotix

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    It was Walker's Gestapo-like actions that led to his recall attempt, opening the Legislture for 10 minutes to vote on a bill then abruptly closing without the necessary public notice...making the whole procedure illegal. Plus his no bid contracts to the Koch Brothers within two weeks of fraudulently gaining office. This form of coercive government should never be allowed in America as this is not Democracy. The recall will see the fruition of tons of money poured into the state for personal gratification, and if it really works.
     
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    One thing that is so hilarious about republicans is that they feel free to post any crap from biased sites, have no apology for posting lying, unsubstantiated BS...and expect everyone to be serious about actually debating their crap....then when they come upon an actual substantiated, vetted article that states the truth...their heads simply explode !! They cannot handle it !!

    Why are republicans so fearful of the truth?
     
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    His figures are government figures so read and show me where he is wrong
     
  16. ptif219

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    Unlike the liberals that use Huffington and media matters. My articles use sources so prove them wrong. For instance the Wisconsin senator uses BLS numbers
     
  17. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    Kedzie is a Scott Walker zombie ...

    *We will get government out of the way of employers ... who will then help Wisconsin create 250,000 jobs by 2015, and as we create those new jobs, we will be able to add 10,000 new businesses.”

    ~ Scott Walker




    Here's Politi-Fact (Wisconsin) that even Madcow bashes as being utterly (of right-wing lies) distorted in recent times ...

    http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/promises/walk-o-meter/promise/526/create-250000-new-jobs/

    Thursday, April 19th, 2012

    The up-and-down pattern of the state's monthly jobs report continued in March 2012.
    This time, the numbers took a dip, showing Wisconsin lost an estimated 4,300 private sector jobs.

    Additionally, the state Department of Workforce Development revised up by 2,100 the number of jobs added in February.
    The new report says that there were 6,100 jobs added in that month.


    We are using the monthly numbers to measure progress by Gov. Scott Walker on achieving his top campaign promise: The state adding 250,000 private sector jobs by the end of his four-year term.


    The monthly jobs numbers are preliminary estimates and are compiled by survey data.

    The new report puts state private-sector employment at 2,329,500, compared with 2,323,600 when Walker took office -- an increase of 5,900 jobs.

    That leaves the governor with 244,100 jobs left to reach 250,000.



    (Timeline continues in Link)
     
  18. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What am I missing here? The dems don't even bother to find a candidate except for the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) bag that lost the last general election to Walker, does that mean it really is all about the money? Nothing has changed in Barrett's stance, which he failed to carry the state with, so are the dems really so lost? They offer more of the same loserness with any already established loser, wow! Bravo dems, BRAVO!!

    Whatever side one may be on, just think about what it means if Barrett wins, it really is all about the money...
     
  19. ptif219

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    Thats funny here is polifact the 20,000 is not disputed the monthly figures may be less accurate. the point is there is jobs being created by Wisconsin business since Walker became governor.

    http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin...-battle-wisconsin-gov-scott-says-new-figures/


    http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin...lker-says-wisconsin-has-added-33200-jobs-he-/

    Walker begins with the new numbers his administration submitted to the federal government May 16, 2012, the day the ad began. They are based on a required quarterly census of state employers. Walker compares the December 2011 numbers to the December 2010 numbers, to get 23,321.

    This is the same number included in the Journal Sentinel article the TV ad cites, which is understandable: The administration provided them to a reporter May 15, 2012, the day before it announced the census numbers that had been sent to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

    Walker then takes monthly numbers from the start of 2012, about 10,000, adds them to the numbers from 2011 and arrives at the 33,200 figure.

    Simple, right?

    Not really.

    The 2011 numbers are based on the jobs census, which covers about 95 percent of employers. They are deemed more accurate than the monthly numbers, which are based on a survey of sample of about 3.5% of employers, then extrapolated to get a state number.

    At various times Walker has touted and criticized these monthly numbers, depending on whether they have shown an increase or a decrease. And these are the numbers Barrett and Democrats have cited to argue the state is losing jobs under Walker.

    The BLS itself recognizes the census method as more accurate. Indeed, it uses those numbers to update the monthly numbers. Think of it as a picture that over time comes into sharper focus.
     
  20. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    "The government just released the final job numbers.
    And, as it turns out, Wisconsin actually gained -- that's right, gained -- more than 20,000 new jobs during my first year in office."

    ~ Scott Walker


    We’ve rated Mostly False Walker’s claim in the ad that 33,200 jobs have been added during his watch when you add the new 2011 figure to monthly numbers for 2012.
    While both sets of numbers are the most up to date, they are gathered differently and cannot be added in this manner, and they were presented without critical facts.


    [​IMG]

    Walker said new figures he released indicating Wisconsin added more than 20,000 jobs in 2011 are "the final job numbers."
    But the count won’t become final until after it is reviewed by the federal government.

    We rate Walker’s statement False.



    [​IMG]
     
  21. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Indeed, let us trust in the Federal Goverment's numbers when said government has already taken a stance against Walker... Such things are really the grass the sheep gain their nourishment from... Bon Apatite...
     
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    Thats crap because politifact is talking about the monthly numbers. Politifact says the 20,000 is not likely to change much

    more lies on your part because Walker is going to win
     
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    Walker is gonna win. Dems are already downplaying their loss. AND I think that the dems and SEIU should have to re-imburse the state (taxpayers) for this BS that dems/Seiu put the state thru. That would stop this stupidity pdq.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are wrong, let them waste their money on failure, that sort of thing tends to follow them.
     
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    Using Politifaux for ANYTHING is simply wanking. They are leftwad liars that get their faux cred from leftwad liars in the Jurassic media. They are lying scum.

    They are [​IMG]


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