NHS admits to killing off 130,000 elderly patients each year

Here ya go, Obamacare proponents. And to think folks called Sarah Palin a liar when she said govt health care would lead to death panels. Amazing how fast we went from a country who respects and takes care of our elderly to a country wanting to pattern our HC system after one that esentially euthenizes senior citizens. Disgusting and disturbing. Click the link to read the entire article.

 

But, but, but, Commissar Donald Berwick said rationing is good for us, Smartie!




Elderly patients 'helped to die to free up beds', warns doctor
NHS hospitals are using end-of-life care to help elderly patients to die because they are difficult to look after and take up valuable beds, a top doctor has warned.
By Donna Bowater8:15AM BST 20 Jun 2012
The Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/e...lped-to-die-to-free-up-beds-warns-doctor.html

 

It's the Daily Mail. They tend to twist things a lot.

 

I don't know of a single hospital or nursing home that wants to "free up beds". They make their money by having bodies in those beds.

 

Does this really sound believable on common sense grounds ?
Do you realise how dirty your hands are , after you have soiled them with the Daily Mail. I keep telling you -- this rag is middle class titillation for control freaks . Right wing . Say no more . .
Someone has got a Professor drunk as a skunk in a Pub and here is the result .
I am sure it is the same over in your back yard : a Prof gets promotion as fast as he brings the University reputation and gravitas .The order of the upwardly mobile UK Prof is -- write books , get papers published in reputable publications and generate publicity . Their only interest is Bums on Seats .
Take this report with a pinch of salt and a cold lager to wash away the taste .

 

Maybe they'll rename the Daily Mail the "New Frontiersman." It's not based out of New York, but I think Alan Moore would approve.

 

Then I guess so does the Telegraph

 

The last mainstream paper I read daily was the Daily Telegraph -- yes it's that good .
Now read the supposedly same story in the two papers .
The Telegraph article seems very representatively sourced and is based on treatment for TERMINALLY ILL PEOPLE
Now compare this versus the Mail , Prof "whistle blower" , who was a hero in his treatment of a patient . But NOT A TERMINALLY ILL PATIENT . Someone who was being treated for pneumonia .
See how the Mail has treated a balanced "good news" story and turned it into a tragedy rampant in British Hospitals and killing over 100,000 patients a year needlessly.
That is abuse of responsibility and deliberate propaganda to turn an issue of general interest and concern into a party political issue .
That's scum at work , imo .

 

Nazis with smiles in the UK.

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The Daily Mail is nothing more than a trash tabloid full of sensationalist and unsubstantiated bull(*)(*)(*)(*). You'd have a harder time finding a less reputable source of information.

 

Amazing how the left attacks the source to avoid facing the truth. I'm not a big fan of the rag either, but when they name names:

If one doubts the validity of the story, one could always research the real source to see if you think he's credible.

Or you can just bury your head in the sand and pretend the claim was never made that 130,000 elderly patients are put to an early death every year in the UK.

Judge, jury & executioner... all in one. How utterly productive.

 

Tell that to the British Granny who missed Christmas with the family last year because she was... put down.

 

It's outrageous! 33 hours is too long. They should narrow it down to 5 minutes or less and preferably during unconsciousness.

The whole point of euthanasia is about dying easily instead of horribly. We should just legalize euthanasia instead of doing things secretly. Everyone wins! I know that I would want to die fast in that final position but not by thirst and hunger.

 

The figure is the total of all patients who died on the LCP. Even the professor is not claiming that everyone on it is there inappropriately. Keep supping the DM Koolade.

The NHS admitted nothing, It doesn't "kill off" people. Not all of those on the LCP were elderly.

 

Well its becoming pretty obvious you dont know a lot of things.......

Perhaps Private Health Care wants to "fill the beds"....Government Health Care on the other hand would prefer to "free up beds"....as all those involved are paid REGARDLESS.

......akin to believing the Government Slobs down at your local DMV want or need you there....so they can get paid. Years from now when your living in a Government Run Nursing Home and sitting in your own feces for 30 days at a time......reality is going to bite you in your sore covered ass.
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The only thing that looks better than Obamacare is an instant fatal heart attack..

 

tell us how that works.

 

do you have data to dispute the claim or are you just flapping your trap ?

 

The Telegraph is right-leaning, but as Ray pointed out, it's a more legitimate journalistic source.

 

For starters, euthanasia usually implies consent. If an elderly person is consenting to euthanization, has certain terms that prefer it in their will, or they've simply signed a waiver as a "no code", then I don't see how euthanization is a problem.

When people look at euthanasia on a surface level, they always tend to assume that it's against someone's will, but it's often quite the opposite.

 

That's a claim by the Daily Mail, not Prof Pullicino though. He expressed (legitimate) concerns about some patients on the LCP and how it is applied. The Daily Mail crunched some numbers to create a dishonest dramatic headline. There is no direct connection between the these two things.

If you want an honest debate about the LCP (or indeed anything else), a Daily Mail article is not the best starting point. If you want to throw mud at the NHS (hoping some will stick to Obamacare), you're welcome to it.

 

perhaps you should educate yourself on the topic of no code before you talk again.

 

Allowing a natural death when you have the means to prevent it is pretty much the same as euthanization.

For example, what would you call pulling the plug on a life support machine when the patient has requested the end of its use? That's euthanization in all practical senses.

 

What a pathetic BS attempt to pull everybody's hearstrings.

The fact is if this protocol is being used, the "granny" is NOT "spending Christmas" with ANYBODY.

She's unconscious in a hospital bed, like the ONE example of a "mistake" this whacko doctor could come up with.

 

He's not a doctor, he's a professor. Are you saying his information is made up? Got any proof of that?