God or Jesus ?

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  1. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    The Rabbi fail.

    They failed in 32AD to even recognize that their own expected Elijah had returned as promised.
    They failed to acknowledge that a man who never died, according to their own scriptures, came back after an absence of 800 years.

    That is a pretty big "fail."

    The Rabbi MUST have mmisunderstood the bible, and then they compounded that by writing a Talmud which has replaced the bible to the extent that the Talmud tells Jews what the bible is supposed to mean.
     
  2. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Well no, you are ead wrong, especially since Islam really messed up in accepting the interpretations of scripture set down by Muhammed.

    Muhammed just could not get his head aound the Trinity idea which the preachers from Rome were telling the Arabs about back there in 622AD.
    Of course, those preachers, like the same ones today, are hard to understand.

    Butstill, Muhammed got it wrong, then the political machinery jumped in and used what Muhammed said to stop the Christian evangeklism.
    The politicians saw all Rome fall under the control of Christianity, and they realized this was a psychological invasion by the swarms of locust that were rushing into Arabia and building congregations and churches.

    So Muhammed used the confusion about the Trinity to stop them.

    He made everyone cry out "Allah is one" evr day five times so as to under cut the Trinity story.

    Very very effect, but a lie.


    If the preachers had first said Christ was the personification of the ideal of Truth as opposed to Satan's lies, the trinity woulkd have been clear.

    Truth is the son-of-the creator God,
    Truth is the image in the mind of what actually exists.

    Truth does have a father in the ever unfolding Reality that we all must bow down to or suffer insanity.

    Truth is in the father, reality, and the facts of Reality are in the son, called Truth.

    Allah is NOT exactly "one," because the Truth is man's copy of the Reality external to himself.
     
  3. John.

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    If you "return" to earth as a newborn, that aint someone who never died.

    Besides, John the baptist aint Elijah, he just came in the "spirit and power of Elijah."


    That might be confusing to some, since Jesus tells us on at least 3 occassions that John IS Elijah.


    And I don't think you understand the timeline on when the bible was written, son.
     
  4. Marlowe

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    OMG What a load of tosh. Jesus is dead - .
    Tell me what sort of god would allow a bunch of his own creatures to flog him through the streets and then nail him to a cross ?

    btw - If your Jesus really cheated death + resurrected, then so did - The King - Elvis Presley.

    .. LOL
     
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    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    I'm not going give pearls to swine.
     
  6. Bishadi

    Bishadi Banned

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    what does mojamming mojammed have to do with this thread.
    christians dont comprehend the trinity let alone you trying to tell this forum that you are aware of muhammeds thoughts on the matter

    the trinity are of 'mass' (elements), energy (light/em) and time. See E=mc2 for the idea. ie.... mass; energy affixed in time
    cant understand why people pay them preachers to lie to them
    political machinery?


    fricken hilarious
    now you know what the politician "saw" and the psychology behind the invasion??!?!? Priceless.

    that's almost as funny as walking around a wall, with an ark and the wall supposed falls down, by god
    the chanting crap is weird, i know.

    what cracks me up is the muslims, chant over loud speakers. And in palestine, the dome of the rock is under muslim control, right in the middle of jerusalem and 5 times a day they blast them prayers over the whole area

    and not a dam thing anyone can do about it.

    it is the funniest thing in the world to comprehend. The bigots of sissy ville, surround and take jerusalem, the UN Res 476,478 tell them pukes its against the law, they primarily want the mount (dome sites on it) and yet the punks with curlers in their hair can do a dam thing but shut up and whine, while the utter morons are kissing the dirt 5 times a day, while listen to some goof moan about .... alah....


    i consider all mass, all energy, all time, the universe itself. ie..... god is 'all ah it' as one

    better than idiots that claim a god died for their sins and if you dont believe he died, you get to die in a hell forever.
    i like that.

    Basically, if idiots would shut up and listen, anyone could comprehend the trinity (mass, energy, time) and start clearing up the lies of lying so b's that claim jesus was me.
    truth are renditions of reality
    shut up.

    if that was the case then you would know who i am, already
    stupid claim
    another quackery

    we are all sons/daughters of god (nature itself).

    nature (god itself) is the ONE. If you wanna call it 'all ah it', i could care less.

    but the day the morons began believing they are separate from nature, they left 'god' by choice, but never could even by choice
     
  7. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if god = everything

    then god = albumin, yolk and shell and everything else including you and me cause we are part of everything, were all connected


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  8. Bishadi

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    absolutely Beautiful
     
  9. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    Paul said that God had nothing to do with the law. Therefore God didn't give anyone the Ten Commandments.
     
  10. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Don't you think that a gkuy who created a god would also give his god all sorts of powers and tie him into history in order to make him special? Therefore, writing stories about how some guy did all sorts of deeds in the distant past isn't based upon reality. It's based upon imagination.
     
  11. Bishadi

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    A solid inquiry.

    Almost like asking for a missing fossile, but not just to fill in the gaps.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    people have tried to separate god into their own religions, they have taken truth and mixed it with myth for profit and control, simple as that... organized religion

    you can find truth in every religion if you look hard enough

    one of the hardest things for people to do is see what is not truth...

    my beliefs believe in a virgin birth, I call that myth, doesn't make me less a believer, I just accept that not everything passed on thru the ages is the truth
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    The thing is God is not a part of any religion......Jesus did not preach religion He preach and lived the kingdom of God. Man created religions and mainstream Christianity is just another that is foreign to the kingdom of God.
     
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    you missed the point....I've got to laugh....Bishadi was quite impressed, so that should be great for your esteem.

    What weird religion are you on about anyway! Scientology????!!!!!
     
  15. elijah

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    Bishadi thinking the post was "beautiful" should be all that needs to be said.......LOL.....................
     
  16. Bishadi

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    the beauty is 2 fold;

    1............. the recognition of all, as ONE, making us all equally a part of everything

    2............ that i didnt have to say a word; the good eventually figure it out, by just being honest with themselves.
     
  17. Bishadi

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    give up more freshair

    honesty is breathtaking, in this environment
     
  18. elijah

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    And you have yet to display it!!!!
     
  19. Bishadi

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    i have posted more than once what you are.

    kind of like seeing a child carrying, what he believes, is black cat with a white stripe down its back and assisting in pointing out the error so the child dont stink up the place

    like you!


    and neither 'god' or 'jesus' told you it is ok to go on the internet and eeee lie a lot
     
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    oooooohhhhhhh....he's calling me a liar again.......ppuuuhhllleeaassee.....get some new material. This "liar liar pants on fire" routine is tired.........
     
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    As a non Christian I detest the Old Testament... but I have a profound respect for the New Testament. The reason... Jesus. I could care less if Jesus is God or was a mere mortal man... his teachings were extraordinary either way and a model for us all. Just wish more Christians acted like Jesus.
     
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    Detesting the Old Testament is detesting Jesus because not only is Jesus the God in the Old Testament but it also spoke about Jesus. And if you respected Jesus you would also believe Him and that He said He existed before Abraham.
     
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    people dont actually dislike the knowledge they hate what is the morons do that cant read it yet write stuff that is absolutely rediculous.
    no it didnt

    not a once

    jesus was not christ; liars are still walking, judgment had not been unleashed and in Matt 16:20 in the New Test, he charged the claim, point blank................... but like in the ot, many who read any t are often the anteeee christeees of both testees

    with claims like that one, i bet jesus rolls over in his grave.

    what is horrid is people using jesus' name in vain, like YOUR post just did
     
  24. Bishadi

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    why detest?

    curious

    i like bunches of the stuff

    for example; that turn da utter cheek, means 'we' can forgive, by choice

    then in this clip, he sets the tone of what is good

    17 And as he is going forth into the way, one having run and having kneeled to him, was questioning him, `Good teacher, what may I do, that life age-during I may inherit?'

    18 And Jesus said to him, `Why me dost thou call good? no one [is] good except One -- God;

    19 the commands thou hast known: Thou mayest not commit adultery, Thou mayest do no murder, Thou mayest not steal, Thou mayest not bear false witness, Thou mayest not defraud, Honour thy father and mother.'


    that be 'injil'

    6 commands mind you


    that put a tear in my eye
     
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    Since I have already spoken to you and you reject what I have to say there is no need to respond to Matt 16:20. My post was directed to robini123 and I'm sure robini123 can speak for himself.
     

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