God or Jesus ?

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  1. Bishadi

    Bishadi Banned

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    i was just pointing out what jesus said (per bible) and you are implying that what you said must be more important.

    I dont read any ambiguity in what that scripture says and if you want to make it mean something else, superceding what jesus said, then go ahead.

    Mark 10:17-19 is just as clear.

    go ahead, post up some more trash to discount jesus and put your beliefs ahead of his charge.
     
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    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    You know Jesus did some things that caused people to hate Him. For example, He called the Pharisees children of the devil. He turned over the tables of the money changers and used a whip to drive out the animals from the temple. He was His own man and did not do the bidding of others.....that is why they said He spoke with authority. How loved would Christians today be by the powers that be if they really acted more like Jesus?
     
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    Jews don't believe the son exists.

    A quick search gives this.
    JOHN 1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend[a] it.
     
  4. Bishadi

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    so he was pissed at the spoiled rotten children of the religious adherances of the period?

    hmmmm

    have you ever thought about why? I have. Perhaps because them religious wingnuts created self righteous a holes, as cruel, inhuman, sick, lying, so b's. The parents themselves and the environment of the children, enabled them to become 'big fricken stupids' (i can consider them BFS's, for short. what a coincidence?)

    You post them as children of the devil, i didnt want to be such a table turner!!!!!!! :omfg:



    put the religious currency down!!!!

    the liars are the bad

    stop it

    gotta love the good deeds of hesus

    whips might sting, i like truth to slap around the BFS's. (eventually they correct themselves)

    a good man, dont need a bfs approval. Judge the punks, so the children aint raped, is my kind of thinking.

    Imagine if them children on the bus respected discipline, by truth! (by seeing themselves, they learned directly how wrong it is: truth hurts)
    i would think, having compassion as his reasons, gives most any human-being solid grounds to stand on
    extremely well loved, i will assume.

    ie.... screw the religious wingnuts, follow the fricken rules (mark 10:19) and when truth, can enable lives to live longer, listen and teach the next generations the good news, basic.

    jesus knew he was not the last word and if christians followed the concepts of be fair, be honest, forgive as you can but judge the decievers (turn them tables), and await 'truth' to unfold (the revealings)


    it's simple
     
  5. robini123

    robini123 Well-Known Member

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    You mistake me as a member of the choir. I am not a Christian and I reject your belief in the Bible. My views on Jesus are my own, and there is nothing that you can do about that. I understand that Christianity is a dictatorship where choice in what you believe is handed to you. I on the other hand have free will when it comes to religion and use it regularly.
     
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    The Old Testament has been used for thousands of years to commit unspeakable evil crimes. The Old Testament is used by some to spread hate. The Old Testament has so much negativity... hellfire and brimstone... the wrath of God... makes me view God as some evil maniacal dictator and that we all should walk on eggshells and live in fear of. Plus many of the stories frame God in negative way. Abraham, kill your son to prove your allegiance to me... OK, OK, lol, just kidding, you can let him live... whew that was close, that idiot almost did it?! Then insane people in our society kill their children because God told them to... and they use the Old Testament to explain their behavior. Perhaps Abraham was just having a psychotic delusion for all we know.
     
  7. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It seems like you just blindly go around with ignorant and superficial throwaway remarks, trying all you can to discredit Christianity. Unless you are open to understanding the context, you will never ever get it....full stop! I couldn't be bothered trying to explain to you, because your mind is already set!
     
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    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    It does not matter......to reject one part of the Bible is to reject all of it just the same way one is a law breaker even if they only violate one of the law.
     
  9. Bishadi

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    the delusional are the ones using the material to do them stupid things you had to list.

    ya got zionist chosen ones destroying the middle east, dirt kissers strapping on planes/bombs and the invisible hand running the whole show. (business)

    You are not alone in you anger. Many have the same contempt. It aint the 'god' that writes or uses the material in stupidity. man made the doctrine (all cases)
     
  10. robini123

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    Nice try. Nothing superficial about what I am saying. I have close friends that are Mormon who I respect to the highest degree. I just have a problem with all those who call themselves Christians but do not walk the talk. And if I seem superficial... perhaps it is because my whole life I have been judged upon the superficial by so called tolerant Christ loving Christians.

    My mind is set? That is like the pot calling the kettle black. Your views are handed to you and not subject to change. Belief in the God of Christianity is a dictatorship, with no room for argument. God says it, so it is. LMAO... and you say my mind is set... that is rich.
     
  11. robini123

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    Preaching to the Choir again.
     
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    I agree.
     
  13. Bishadi

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    i was actually going to give him a like

    but i knew he has no idea how bad that statement makes him look
     
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    Who says the Choir does not need it?
     
  15. robini123

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    Not I. I am saying I am not a Christian. Perhaps you misunderstand what I mean by Choir. Preaching to the Choir means reaching only Christians with what you say.
     
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    What I say here Christian and none Christian on this board has equal access to.....so anyone can either take it or leave it.
     
  17. robini123

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    Well then in the future do not quote me then tell me Christian dictates. Make a post without quotes to address us all.
     
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    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    Dictates? What dictates are you referring to? And if I chose to quote the Bible that is my prerogative......I don't have to ask anyone if I should.
     
  19. robini123

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    "to reject one part of the Bible is to reject all of it"

    "Detesting the Old Testament is detesting Jesus because not only is Jesus the God in the Old Testament but it also spoke about Jesus. And if you respected Jesus you would also believe Him and that He said He existed before Abraham. "

    I use the label "dictates" but you can call them whatever makes you feel better.

    If you quote me and then use Bible passages in your argument or ideas based upon your religion in an attempt to rebuff my post... then I may accuse you of preaching to the Choir and there is nothing that you can do about it.

    We will just have to agree to disagree here.
     
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    Profusely apologetic Robini, that wasn't meant for you.....lol! I actually agree with your statement. I also have a problem with intolerant Christianity....so go for it, i'm right behind you!! That one was meant for Bishadi...:handshake:
     
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    I think most people pick and choose what to believe from the bible, nothing wrong with that
     
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    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    Well, that is what is whether you agree with it or not.
     
  23. Sean Michael

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    God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. They are all one. St. Patrick used a three leaf shamrock to show they were 3 different personas to the same one God. Personas is not actually the word to use but it is hard to describe so I will use the word persona. It does not mean in this sense 3 different personalities, but 3 different forms of the same entity. God uses the entities to express Himself to us, it is complicated and great mystery, but this is how God chose to reveal Himself.
     
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    That depends on who you are talking about and what you mean by pick and choose to believe. For example, I believe all the books in the Bible are divinely inspired by God but not everything in the Bible is applicable for Christians. In the Old Testament the Israelites were required to offer animal sacrifices every day, but that is not required for Christians because Jesus' sacrifice has paid the price for all the sins of every man, woman and children past, present and future.
     
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    it?

    you dont agree with 'it' (the bible)

    You have your belief and use the bible to sustain your beliefs by using the parts that you like.

    You dont hold the bible as true.
     

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