How psychotic is the US regime?

I agree with that premise.

It may well be that while each person in a given society may not technically have psychosis, that it is quite possible for a state akin to psychosis, to be induced in the mass.

Note the use of the word 'induced'.

Because that's what it takes at a society level.

Psychosis itself is not a mental illness, but the symptom of a mental illness.

In the individual, it can be brought on by exteme stress, sometimes it can be drug induced, and often it is simply the given mental illness having peaked, for some reason. It is not a permanent state, in the individual, it is an 'episode', which may last a short time or longer time.

For a society, or at least a good enough % of it to be a genuine worry, to exhibit an almost collective psychosis, it is quite possible, more than quite possible, it has been done before, many times.

It's not so much that you can 'infect' them with a mental illness, literally, it is better explained by way of gradually shifting thinking, to the degree that the mainstream thinking sounds like someone exhibiting psychosis. Experiments to prove such things have been done.

Jack

 

Seriously ! Mass Psychosis ?

WHAT! - Nazism was NOT a disease of the Collective ?
.............. Bomb throwing Fundamentists of whatever Stripe
& countries that START Aggressive Wars to prevent War ?
.... you are telling me - these people are NOT collectively Insane ?

Both Jung & Freud hypothesized that the concept "Mass Psychosis"
.............. a Narcisistic Paranoid Psychosis of the Collective soul *
........................................... being the worst & most deadly variety

Fact is - Collectives can & often do catch Serious Psychosis
....................... Like individuals they can catch it like a Virus
............................ & it can destroy many people very quickly


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The Urban Dictionary tells us:
OP means Original Poster
What are you trying to tell us here Marshal ?

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A highly disturbing report prepared by the Foreign Ministry on yesterdays nearly 3 ½ hour meeting between President’s Putin and Obama at the G-20 Summit in Mexico states that Russia’s leader was “shocked” after he told the US leader that America’s Middle East policies were bringing the world to brink of total war to which Obama replied…“I don’t care, maybe that’s what we all need anyway.”

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1588.htm

 

The Narcisistic Paranoid Psychosis of the Collective soul *


1. Narcissism

The Myth of American Exceptionalism
Stephen Walt

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/10/11/the_myth_of_american_exceptionalism?page=full



Among the OECD Nations, America is Exceptional in these respects



American Narcissism the Myth of National Superiority

http://www.amazon.com/American-Narcissism-Myth-National-Superiority/dp/0875864686

When does national pride cross the invisible boundary that separates benign
patriotism and malignant nationalism? Nationalism is not unique to America: it was
invented with the birth of modern nations. But nationalism is unique in America.
Americans conceive themselves and their nation to be incontrovertibly superior to
the other peoples and nations of the earth. Historically, American notions of
superiority spring from myths of the unique regenerative power of the new land;
from visions of chosen-ness, mission and high destiny; from the indelible legends of
frontier self-sufficiency; from the confidence and self-reliance needed to succeed as
immigrants; from a powerful sense of America's isolation and uniqueness; from the
realization of abundance; and finally from the perceived universality of American
ideology. This predisposes us to a distinctively virulent strain of nationalism unlike
that found in almost any other modern nation. As the unipolar moment fades into
memory, this sense of unquestionable superiority - expressed through politics and
foreign policy - does not play well before the global audience. In fact, it never did.
In America today, notions of national superiority are far more deeply ingrained and
far more potentially ruinous than most of us imagine. This is a journey that slides
from reason to emotion, from individual liberty to mass tyranny, and from humanity
to inhumanity.

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2. + Paranoia

The Surveillance State
http://www.salon.com/2012/04/21/e_2/

“The National Security Agency's capability at any time could be turned around on the
American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to
monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn’t matter. There would be
no place to hide. [If a dictator ever took over, the N.S.A.] could enable it to impose total
tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back.“


Encroachment upon Basic Freedoms,
Militarized Police State in America

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=31428


Opposition to TSA Excess
Could get you Labeled a Potential Terrorist

http://www.examiner.com/article/sho...esses-be-prohibited-persons-for-gun-ownership


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http://gorillasguides.com/wp-content//american-flag-ongoing-diplomacy-edition-ds-610x390.jpg


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3. = PSYCHOSIS

“Nightmare & Insanity are Akin
Mysterious & Involuntary states that skew & distort objective Reality

One wakens from Nightmare, but from Insanity there is no Awakening”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmeFBvM_5_E
[video=youtube;WmeFBvM_5_E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmeFBvM_5_E[/video]


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& The Manifestations of Psychosis -
Are Writ LARGE - Upon the Citizens Hands

http://gorillasguides.com/wp-content//american-flag-ongoing-diplomacy-edition-ds-610x390.jpg

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Thank You Eadora for posting the video about a "hoodwinked, dishonored people, with collective insanity".

Too bad it considers the current wars against Lybia and Syria as people resisting the vicious Talmudic/Communist system that so many so called Americans so much enjoy imposing on whoever the elite want to impose on.

 

There's a certain irony to how a thread calling the U.S. psychotic successfully attracts a lot of psychotic posters.

 

Exactly!

So desperately true
So difficult to post on an American Political Forum
....... without encountering a Plethora of Psycho's ​

Especially when dealing with the subject of the Psychopathy of the Nation




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and this is what happens when you cram crayons down the throat of a frog and then hit it with a sledge hammer

 

The pity is, that he is losing something of his message, in choosing to write that way, imo.

It does not attract attention TO it, which it may want to do, it makes it harder to really read.

 

Especially that last bit!

 

That would be like overthrowing our own corporate elites. Lots of luck with that!

 

Excellent Repartee' !

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From our side it looks like they are psychotic/insane to attack Iran this way politically, but all this is fear propaganda meant for (works against) the Iranian and Western populations/masses to eventualy bring a majority of them behind 'new' leaders, via the so called regime change. In the Middle Eastern countries often the hard way (invasions, civil war, accusation of wmd), in the West only done via politics and elections.
They create two empires (or unions/leagues/alliances) (same as the creation of NS Germany and the USSR/Sovjet Union, two big powers), one in the Middle East (the Arab League, was btw immidiatly founded when WW2 ended in 1945) and the other empire will be an alliance of all western countries (mainly the USA and Europe (thats why politically everything in the West is going synchronized politically, we see higher turnouts on the election days, more and more people cast their vote one a single party/leader (they have organized the masses over the past eleven years by using (fear mongering) propaganda, psywar (all the red, white/grey black and the artificial stuff/the rectangular shapes of buildings, and so on), to create one mass of people. It works almost the same as how fasion works, what you see on tv you become, society has become tv/youtube/media, artificial and people's minds are filled with the same information, the masses can't see the big picture, the big process that is going on in the background, that is empire building (by regime change and elections, thats why you shouldn't give your power to politics, the Iranian and Syrian people too when they have installed new regimes (is happening without the tv watcher will notice, they push forward their imperialistic agenda, they are the UN, Russian/US/European elites/govs, the Egyptian people are making historical errors too, by starting to vote in mass (after revolutions, can't see that e.g Hitler also caused several revolutions), remember how the German people kept voting, the same is repeating (you saw the high turnouts in Russia and France) Lots of Egyptian people are happy they can finally vote (but voting is their next problem, they can't see that politics and elections are a great danger to their future, they give away their power to the same rulers in top of power.

 

Americans psychotic........

well they support and pay for this kind of thing to a 8 year old luckily caught on camera

[video=youtube;iTzB1N_EZXU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTzB1N_EZXU&feature=player_embedded#![/video]

 

Managing Empire and Republic simultaneously is proving a difficult task. The Saber Rattling is less about the nuclear threat and more focused on the Iranian Oil Bourse on Kish Island.

 

Why Absurd ?
Does not a Serial Killer know exactly what he is doing ?

 

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Part I

The American Pychosis - Chris Hedges

http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/90/hedges-american-psychosis.html

..

What Happens to a Society that Cannot Distinguish Between Reality and Illusion ?

The United States, locked in the kind of twilight disconnect that grips dying empires, is
a country entranced by illusions. It spends its emotional and intellectual energy on the
trivial and the absurd. It is captivated by the hollow stagecraft of celebrity culture as the
walls crumble. This celebrity culture giddily licenses a dark voyeurism into other
people’s humiliation, pain, weakness and betrayal. Day after day, one lurid saga after
another, whether it is Michael Jackson, Britney Spears or John Edwards, enthralls the
country … despite bank collapses, wars, mounting poverty or the criminality of its
financial class.

The virtues that sustain a nation-state and build community, from honesty to self-sacrifice
to transparency to sharing, are ridiculed each night on television as rubes stupid enough
to cling to this antiquated behavior are voted off reality shows. Fellow competitors for
prize money and a chance for fleeting fame, cheered on by millions of viewers, elect to
“disappear” the unwanted. In the final credits of the reality show America’s Next Top
Model, a picture of the woman expelled during the episode vanishes from the group
portrait on the screen. Those cast aside become, at least to the television audience,
nonpersons. Celebrities that can no longer generate publicity, good or bad, vanish. Life,
these shows persistently teach, is a brutal world of unadulterated competition and a
constant quest for notoriety and attention.


Our culture of flagrant self-exaltation, hardwired in the American character, permits the
humiliation of all those who oppose us. We believe, after all, that because we have the
capacity to wage war we have a right to wage war. Those who lose deserve to be erased.
Those who fail, those who are deemed ugly, ignorant or poor, should be belittled and
mocked. Human beings are used and discarded like Styrofoam boxes that held junk food.
And the numbers of superfluous human beings are swelling the unemployment offices,
the prisons and the soup kitchens.


It is the cult of self that is killing the United States. This cult has within it the classic
traits of psychopaths: superficial charm, grandiosity and self-importance; a need for
constant stimulation; a penchant for lying, deception and manipulation; and the
incapacity for remorse or guilt. Michael Jackson, from his phony marriages to the
portraits of himself dressed as royalty to his insatiable hunger for new toys to his
questionable relationships with young boys, had all these qualities. And this is also the
ethic promoted by corporations. It is the ethic of unfettered capitalism. It is the
misguided belief that personal style and personal advancement, mistaken for
individualism, are the same as democratic equality. It is the nationwide celebration
of image over substance, of illusion over truth. And it is why investment bankers blink in
confusion when questioned about the morality of the billions in profits they made by
selling worthless toxic assets to investors.

We have a right, in the cult of the self, to get whatever we desire. We can do anything,
even belittle and destroy those around us, including our friends, to make money, to be
happy and to become famous. Once fame and wealth are achieved, they become their
own justification, their own morality. How one gets there is irrelevant. It is this perverted
ethic that gave us investment houses like Goldman Sachs … that willfully trashed the
global economy and stole money from tens of millions of small shareholders who had
bought stock in these corporations for retirement or college. The heads of these
corporations, like the winners on a reality television program who lied and manipulated
others to succeed, walked away with hundreds of millions of dollars in bonuses and
compensation. The ethic of Wall Street is the ethic of celebrity. It is fused into one
bizarre, perverted belief system and it has banished the possibility of the country
returning to a reality-based world or avoiding internal collapse. A society that cannot
distinguish reality from illusion dies.

The tantalizing illusions offered by our consumer culture, however, are vanishing for
most citizens as we head toward collapse. The ability of the corporate state to pacify the
country by extending credit and providing cheap manufactured goods to the masses is
gone. The jobs we are shedding are not coming back, as the White House economist
Lawrence Summers tacitly acknowledges when he talks of a “jobless recovery.” The
belief that democracy lies in the choice between competing brands and the accumulation
of vast sums of personal wealth at the expense of others is exposed as a fraud.
Freedom can no longer be conflated with the free market. The travails of the poor are rapidly
becoming the travails of the middle class, especially as unemployment insurance runs
out. And class warfare, once buried under the happy illusion that we were all going to
enter an age of prosperity with unfettered capitalism, is returning with a vengeance.


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Part II

America is sinking under trillions in debt it can never repay and stays afloat by
frantically selling about $2 billion in Treasury bonds a day to the Chinese. It saw 2.8
million people lose their homes in 2009 to foreclosure or bank repossessions – nearly
8,000 people a day – and stands idle as they are joined by another 2.4 million people this
year. It refuses to prosecute the Bush administration for obvious war crimes, including
the use of torture, and sees no reason to dismantle Bush’s secrecy laws or restore habeas
corpus. Its infrastructure is crumbling. Deficits are pushing individual states to
bankruptcy and forcing the closure of everything from schools to parks. The wars in Iraq
and Afghanistan, which have squandered trillions of dollars, appear endless. There are
50 million Americans in real poverty and tens of millions of Americans in a category
called “near poverty.” One in eight Americans – and one in four children – depend on
food stamps to eat. And yet, in the midst of it all, we continue to be a country consumed
by happy talk and happy thoughts. We continue to embrace the illusion of inevitable
progress, personal success and rising prosperity. Reality is not considered an impediment
to desire.

When a culture lives within an illusion it perpetuates a state of permanent infantilism
or childishness. As the gap widens between the illusion and reality, as we suddenly grasp
that it is our home being foreclosed or our job that is not coming back, we react like
children. We scream and yell for a savior, someone who promises us revenge, moral
renewal and new glory. It is not a new story. A furious and sustained backlash by a
betrayed and angry populace, one unprepared intellectually, emotionally and
psychologically for collapse, will sweep aside the Democrats and most of th
e Republicans and will usher America into a new dark age. It was the economic collapse
in Yugoslavia that gave us Slobodan Milosevic. It was the Weimar Republic that
vomited up Adolf Hitler. And it was the breakdown in Tsarist Russia that opened the
door for Lenin and the Bolsheviks. A cabal of proto-fascist misfits, from Christian
demagogues to loudmouth talk show hosts, whom we naïvely dismiss as buffoons, will
find a following with promises of revenge and moral renewal. And as in all totalitarian
societies, those who do not pay fealty to the illusions imposed by the state become the
outcasts, the persecuted.

The decline of American empire began long ago before the current economic
meltdown or the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. It began before the first Gulf War or
Ronald Reagan. It began when we shifted, in the words of Harvard historian Charles
Maier, from an “empire of production” to an “empire of consumption.” By the end of the
Vietnam War, when the costs of the war ate away at Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society
and domestic oil production began its steady, inexorable decline, we saw our country
transformed from one that primarily produced to one that primarily consumed. We
started borrowing to maintain a level of consumption as well as an empire we could no
longer afford. We began to use force, especially in the Middle East, to feed our insatiable
thirst for cheap oil. We substituted the illusion of growth and prosperity for real growth
and prosperity. The bill is now due. America’s most dangerous enemies are not Islamic
radicals but those who sold us the perverted ideology of free-market capitalism and
globalization. They have dynamited the very foundations of our society. In the 17th
century these speculators would have been hung. Today they run the government and
consume billions in taxpayer subsidies.

As the pressure mounts, as the despair and desperation reach into larger and larger
segments of the populace, the mechanisms of corporate and government control are
being bolstered to prevent civil unrest and instability. The emergence of the corporate
state always means the emergence of the security state. This is why the Bush White
House pushed through the Patriot Act (and its renewal), the suspension of habeas corpus,
the practice of “extraordinary rendition,” warrantless wiretapping on American citizens
and the refusal to ensure free and fair elections with verifiable ballot-counting. The
motive behind these measures is not to fight terrorism or to bolster national security. It is
to seize and maintain internal control. It is about controlling us.


And yet, even in the face of catastrophe, mass culture continues to assure us that if we
close our eyes, if we visualize what we want, if we have faith in ourselves, if we tell God
that we believe in miracles, if we tap into our inner strength, if we grasp that we are truly
exceptional, if we focus on happiness, our lives will be harmonious and complete. This
cultural retreat into illusion, whether peddled by positive psychologists, by Hollywood or
by Christian preachers, is magical thinking. It turns worthless mortgages and debt into
wealth. It turns the destruction of our manufacturing base into an opportunity for growth
. It turns alienation and anxiety into a cheerful conformity. It turns a nation that wages
illegal wars and administers offshore penal colonies where it openly practices torture
into the greatest democracy on earth. And it keeps us from fighting back.

Resistance movements will have to look now at the long night of slavery, the decades of
oppression in the Soviet Union and the curse of fascism for models. The goal will no
longer be the possibility of reforming the system but of protecting truth, civility and
culture from mass contamination. It will require the kind of schizophrenic lifestyle that
characterizes all totalitarian societies. Our private and public demeanors will often have
to stand in stark contrast. Acts of defiance will often be subtle and nuanced. They will be
carried out not for short term gain but the assertion of our integrity. Rebellion will have
an ultimate if not easily definable purpose. The more we retreat from the culture at large
the more room we will have to carve out lives of meaning, the more we will be able to
wall off the flood of illusions disseminated by mass culture and the more we will retain
sanity in an insane world. The goal will become the ability to endure.



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Thanks Eadora for the great posts on America becoming victim to its un-redeemed self/ego.

But what the post calls 'Capitalism' is really Communism with a Capitalism facade/face. We have been Communist since Lincoln and Karl Marx orchestrated their Communist revolution of 1861 on America.

 

For whom?

 

Just to be technically accurate.

A key trait of a psychopath is that they do know right from wrong, but they do not feel those values and rules apply to them.

They feel, in some sense, usually because of their fractured psyche, that they are perhaps too special, too different, too chosen, for it to apply to them.

See any global familiarity there...with anyone in particular?

 

Good posts Eadora (wink)

Nothing happens, which would upset the financial elite , as long as that Society is kept sedated in believing in the illusion - i.e. the "American Dream " and never wake up to face reality amd slavishly. stand hand on heart , swearing to defend the system .

I'm told , the consumerist American Dream ensures that the individual follows a “it could be me” attitude. In Britain. + few other countries its called winning the lottery. I won £10 two weeks ago. (wink)

LOL .

 

Only a total moron would buy into the whole election BUSINESS, and that is what it is ... a business.

Only the terminally stupid would think it would make a difference if you had Obama, Romney, Spider Man or Arnie in charge.

Only the intellectually afflicted would still think that if only 'Liberals' would 'just not be Liberals', everything would be lovely and good.

Can't they see? They want Americans to blame EACH OTHER, so that they don't ever look to the true source for ALL misery.

That is why, in US politics, the domestic political discussion amounts to ' 'Dem Libruls', and their international perspective is 'Dem Muslims'.

So.

They have Americans blaming one another, one billion Muslims, and sometimes Europeans.

Only one group of people missing there.

If only there were a clue....

 

David Duke on the issue:
[video=youtube;z3Q1B-w-AFY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Q1B-w-AFY[/video]