All the more reason to ban it globally then, so irresponsible women won't be able to seek out murders for hire elsewhere. As it should be, just like child porn should remain underground, even if it always will exist. While stopping the murder of innocent children. And stopping the torture and murder of innocent children conceived through rape because of the actions of their fathers. Abortion is evil.
But since that will never happen you are just kidding yourself. LOL It isnt actually stopping abortions, as has been proven repeatedly now. No one is torturing children. Well, maybe lifers are, by putting them and mothers at risk of enduring more pain then they need if it were legalized. And it isnt murder, morally speaking, to kill a fetus. Hardly.
I am not legally allowed to murder either, I do not see this as a breach of my liberty. No one has sovereignity over there own body, there iscertain things any of us are permitted and not permitted to do.
No one is torturing children. Well, maybe lifers are, by putting them and mothers at risk of enduring more pain then they need if it were legalized. And it isnt murder, morally speaking, to kill a fetus. Hardly.[/QUOTE] To kill a fetus is not morally evil according to who?, you. I believe it is morally evil and it is unjustifable.
Ah, why are they lying to their families? Healthcare, is to look after peoples health not to kill people.
Because you are not thinking logically. Morally speaking they should, for the most part. There shouldnt be when it comes to our own bodies.
I guess a lot of families have a lot of dickheads in them, you know, lifers. When it comes to abortion, it should help kill fetuses.
The purpose of government and law is to maintain order in society. We are not permitted by law to do things that cause disorder or chaos in society. The question of right and wrong is not a matter for government or law, it is within the province of religion. Sometimes the two coincide and a thing that is wrong causes disorder in society and so is declared illegal. But if an action does NOT cause disorder in society, and is merely wrong in the views of some, it should not be made a matter of law.
Sounds good to me - the harder it is to murder your kid, the better. And the idea that kids should be killed because they were fathered through rape and incest through no fault of their own is such a joke. Hopefully abortion will be outlawed in the UK as well, once their culture sees the light.
I disagree. If the purpose of government is to maintain order in society, then totalitarian regimes are OK. The question of right and wrong is crucial for law, its the source of law (or it should be at least).
I do. Child porn is not a crime, merely evidence of a crime. Posession of CP should not be a crime, only production of CP should be (and perhaps distribution), as thats when someone is actually harmed. No victim, no crime. Mere posession of CP does not objectively harm anyone.
Purchase of child porn does harm a victim, it funds the abuse. Possession of child porn also shows a credible intent to commit a crime against children. However unlike possession of child porn, abortion does harm, nay kill, an innocent life - that's the very reason that it is considered immoral.
The production of child porn harms children, harming children causes disorder in society. It's really simple. Abortion, OTOH, is a private matter, and an individual matter, not a matter for society as a whole to decide since it does NOT disrupt order in society.
It would seem that they didn't get as many as they had hoped, in spite of importing supporters from the country next door. "An anti-abortion rally being held in Belfast city centre today is expected to attract thousands of people from all over Ireland. Pro-life organisation Precious Life is staging the rally and director Bernadette Smyth (below) said the event is expected to attract bigger numbers than the estimated 8,000 who attended the event held in Dublin last year. “Extra buses are being put on this year and we can't keep up with demand — we've had to ask some people to use their own transport and trains,” she said. “It's incredible. We've seven buses coming from Dublin alone and four from Donegal.” Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...for-belfast-rally-16182249.html#ixzz20nDhGH6n
Once again this ridiculous logic is....ridiculous. Murder is outlawed Makedde. In just about every society, maybe we should get rid of those murder laws because ya know what, people still murder people. That is your logic when followed to its ridiculous end. Can't stop it, so why pass a law against it?...lol. What your a proponent of is pure anarchy. IF we actually follow your ridiculous logic to its ridiculous end.
Society as a majority agrees with laws against murder. That isn't true about abortion. Polls consistently show the vast majority of Americans want Roe v. Wade upheld. It isn't clear that murder laws deter murder, but they allow for the pursuit of justice. In your opinion, what should the punishment be for women who seek and obtain abortions, which is contracting murder, according to you?
It isn't ridiculous logic, its true. Women from Ireland will travel to England to obtain an abortion regardless of the laws against it in Ireland. I don't know what is so difficult to understand about that. And comparing murder to abortion is not going to win you this debate.
Because you are not thinking logically. Yes, everyone does. Abortion must be one of the permitted things. When it comes to one's own body and person, however, one should have COMPLETE freedom to do whatever the hell they want. The only criteria is they are of sound mind.
Your premise is stupid Makedde. Your saying don't outlaw abortions because someone will find a way to get one. It's no different Makedde, then saying the same for murder laws. Your logic is flawed and your reasoning juvenile.
Actually murder laws stop murders - abortion laws do not stop abortions. That's the point. If murder laws were as inefficient as abortion laws, then you would say the same thing, but you cant, because murder laws work.
Actually murder laws do NOT stop murders. They simply keep the rates down. I suspect that if abortion was outlawed in Ireland, their abortion rates would also come down.
