I was at a Pro-Life rally in Belfast last week, it was great. There was over 7000 thousand pro-lifers, and only 100 people came out in opposition. It was a celebration as to how N.Ireland remains pro-life though the government of Britain is trying to force upon us the legalisation of abortion. We had music dancing face painting, the very old and the very young where there. The people lining the streets shouted in support and took photographs as we marched by. Normally in this country we cannot agree on much, but we as Christians and all people of God united are a force to be reckoned with. For once I was proud to be form this country, secteranism and bigotory put to oneside. Our politicians have done us proud also as 3 of the 4 main parties in N.Ireland are in complete oppostion to abortion. I hope this small island continues to be shining light to the rest of the world and realise that abortion is the murder of our most innocent.
Yes and do you know what women in your country do when they need an abortion? They leave and get it somewhere else. http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...s-record-abortion-figures-shock-14126803.html So no, even having it illegal there is not stopping them. Oh and your country also forces women to seek abortion elsewhere for doomed pregnancies. http://www.abortioninireland.org/ Now that's depressing. Also abortion has just gone underground in your country. All your laws are doing is endangering the lives of desperate women and torturing impregnated victims of rape.
If you look at the Belfast Telegraph that link you gave me was for 2007. It is been reported that there has been a decrease in women travelling from Ireland to mainland Britain to have abortion. Those who support abortion claim now that they are going to mainland europe for the procedeure. I also can say I was on the march in Belfast and the very vast majority of people are completely against abortion being legalised. There was 100 people in support of abortion, they seemed mostly to consist of students. People along the streets were shouting in support, children were laughing and having a good time.
Knowing the history of the Northern Irish with the British government I would hazard that at least 6,900 of the people there were there just to object to the British - the abortion law was probably just an excuse. I also reasonably sure that at least 6,999 people would be more than happy if the rest of Britain kept their abortion laws if only because that would ensure there were fewer Brits. Meanwhile your horrific laws are putting women's lives at risk
I wouldn't be surprised if this is because abortion pills are much easier to get now online and in the mail, unless of course your country also invades people's privacy of what they receive in the mail. I'm sorry, I didn't realize there were only 7100 people in N. Ireland and that they all had some opinion on abortion.
Mind you there seems to be more than 100 people at the pro-choice rally http://vimeo.com/45372961 There also seems to be some (*)(*)(*)(*) stirring going on by the US anti-choice groups http://www.abortionrights.org.uk/in...r-choice-shows-appetite-for-change-in-ireland
Here is a really good video to watch about three women who wanted to terminate their pregnancies for completely valid medical reasons in N. Ireland but could not because of the extremely strict laws they have on abortion. All of their fetuses had something medically wrong with them that meant they would never survive the entire pregnancy or they would die after birth. I believe the first woman said her fetus was missing a chamber to the heart, the next woman's fetus's brain and skull had not fully formed, and the third does not specify what was wrong, just that it had a fatal abnormality. All of these women WANTED their babies. They wanted to have them but when they found out that their babies had a 0% chance to survive they wanted to do what they believed was the most humane thing to do, end the pregnancy before it got worse. They also wanted to save themselves the mental torment of having a GROWING pregnancy and people congratulating them and asking when they're due and all they can think of is, my baby is dead/or going to die. That is an evil thing to force any woman to go through. It is just pure evil. I am astonished that N. Ireland doesn't even allow abortion for a 0% survivability chance in the fetus or even to save the life of the woman. It just blows me away and I can't believe 7000 people were out celebrating this fact as well. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2012/jul/06/ireland-abortion-campaigners-rights-video This just further proves that abortion laws hurt ALL women, including the ones who wanted their babies.
There is a great little pro-life video about this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hQHLJTGdTU It is one of the few that I recommend because it does not judge, condemn or preach
That was sad. And it's even sadder to think that this is what some women face in countries where they cannot just terminate the pregnancy and end both their own and their baby's suffering. =(
Ireland might not allow abortions, but how many women travel to England each year to obtain one? You are kidding yourself if you think that because abortion is banned, there are no abortions!
If you look at the guardian it gives you some examples of people who habve had to travel to have an abortion. However over all there is less women from Ireland north and south having abortions than in comparsion to people from the rest of Britain and other european countries. Oh by the way 2 people were arrested and for assualt on the day of the march. They were from the minority group that supported abortion (murder). No pro-life marchers were arrested or were they spitting. We have had enough of killing here, it is time it stopped and I congratulate the people of this country for being unified against the killing of the unborn child.
No one is saying that, Iam surethere is people who go abroad to kill their unborn child. Iam also sure many woman regret and sorry for making that decision. Ireland though is standing up and saying it does not condone it, it does not want it to become an acceptable thing to do. Our laws show what our nations find acceptable and unacceptable, Ireland is saying that to think the killing of an innocent person is right is a fundamentally wrong attitude to have.
The ways of dealing with grief such as this are as varied as the people involved - a true professional never judges, never condemns but simply assists in whatever way they can. They certainly do not project their own beliefs about an issue onto another person when that person is desperately trying to sort out their own emotions and life path. See the difference between myself and some pro-lifers is that if the woman decided to have the baby I would assist her with THAT and help birth the baby, cover it as I could and allow her to hold it for as long as it breathed.
You know for a long time in Australia the Irish were the butt of "dumb Irish" jokes - this post almost validates those jokes. It shows an abysmal lack of insight and knowledge into the culture and attitudes found in other countries, the laws of other countries and mostly it displays gobsmacking ignorance in relation to the medical issues related to abortion
Most people in N.Ireland want to remain part of Britain. N.Ireland was manafactured to be pro-british. They made it so it was to have a pro-british majority. That is the reason why all Ulster does not belong to the U.K. IRELAND IS THE SAFEST PLACE FOR A WOMAN TO BE PREGNANT, IT IS ALSO THE SAFEST PLACE FOR THE CHILD.
If anything the Irish people know more about other cultures probably than anyone. Irish have travelled the world, worked migrated and often people come back home. I lived in America, for a period, my wife lived in Australia, one of my brothers lived in England, another in America also, and one in Holland, and a sister in England. I have friends who have lived and worked in Saudi Arabi, Africa, China, and all over the world. Most abortions that are carried out do not have any medical reason behind them. Most abortions are not because either the mother or else the child is at risk, most are carried out because the child is seen as inconvience. So you are the one showing your ignorance. I believe the people of Ireland is standing up for what is right, we are not following the fad of liberalism, materialism, and self indulgence. We are putting forward the idea of loving, caring, and supporting our fellow human beings.
How are they deprived from their liberty?. The liberty to do what exactly?. Could you please clarify, as this is very abstrct and vague. I would very much appreciste it if you told me whta it is women here are deprived from that other women elsewhere are not?.
1,000 women from Northern Ireland crossed the water to Great Britain last year to obtain a service that should be available in all of the UK. " Every year women scrimp, save and lie to their families just to get access to basic healthcare. Some sell their pensions, use a loan shark, beg strangers for help or pawn their engagement rings. It doesn't sound like 21st century Britain but last year, there were more than 1,000 of them. The reason? They were getting an abortion, and they were from Northern Ireland. The 1967 Abortion Act act, which legalised abortion in England, Wales and Scotland, does not apply in Northern Ireland, making it almost impossible for women there to get an termination on the NHS, even in the case of rape or incest... " http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...eland-abortion-support-netowrk_n_1464206.html
