Fellow Atheists: Do you claim no god exists, or do you simply lack belief?

Oh, well that's easy to answer - because they're idiots, often with nothing better to do with their time.

Indeed, I agree.

Exactly.

Well said.

I completely agree.

 

There you go, spelled out in plain English, the entire intent of the apatheism movement is just for atheists to avoid their burden of proof.

Once again, all conclusion, if they are logical, must have a burden of proof. Slightly changing the wording of a claim does not effect the underlying necessity of supporting such claims. It really is that simple.

 

So, I am curious Mak, I know and respect you, but I wonder why you would so specifically reject the Christian God?

 

It might have something to do with the fact that if the Christian god did exist it would be considered actively evil and malevolent.

 

You are not Mak, and I certainly do not hold you in any where near the same regard that I hold her.

Once again, you will just have to zip your lip and allow SOMEONE ELSE to answer a question posed to them.

Agony, I know. Perhaps you should sue the forum or something?

 

In that case, the proof would be the coal that he didn't leave behind.

..and the tooth fairy doesn't discriminate.

 

Wow, this coming from the guy who has built his entire persona on butting in on threads that don't concern him and then derailing him with his insults and nonsense?

BTW, why should I have to zip my lip? Are you praying?

 

In my understanding of both (or creed, lets say) Santa doesnt leave anything for naughty kids and the tooth fairy does discriminate. Like I said, God is just as unlikely/likely.

 

Oh I'm hitting an all-time new low in what I am debating on this forum

The coal is a part of the story http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus

But at any rate Megadeathfan, even in such a case that it wasn't, if Santa thought that the kid was naughty, there would be no gifts and if there was, the carefully placed nanny cam would show you that the gifts didn't come from Santa..

...and what makes you think that the tooth fairy discriminates ? I never heard that one anywhere. Even so, you wake up,see the money, the nanny cam has proven that the tooth fairy wasn't the suspect.

 

Santa works through others, just like god supposedly does. You can't believe everything you read about Santa. The judgmental Santa who doesn't bring presents to bad kids is just a twisted story by deceitful humans trying to scare children, much like ugly passages in other religions that followers don't want to accept are the same. I can play this game all day long.

 

Lets say I dont believe it, like some Christians dont believe in hell.

But it would become clear Santa thought they were naughty and their presents came from their parents.

My "faith."

Yeah if you dont brush your teeth, the fairy wont take them.

Indeed, it shows that the fairy though your tooth was crap so your parents gave you money instead. It doesn't disprove the tooth fairy in the slightest - same with Santa. Just makes their standards look way too high - like God.

 

That's a good one.

 

'''''''''''' oops.. my computer sucks.

 

Doesn't matter. Christians do believe that "Hell" is a part of the story though, whether they believe in it or not is secondary in terms of 'Proof',which is what we are talking about. So by comparison, Hell can't be disproved either,though the story of getting coal from Santa,as per story,can be disproved over night.

True, we'll have to stick to the story as it is.

That changes things Megadeathfan,your faith isn't what you offered up initially, you offered up Santa and the tooth fairy and in both cases I have shown that they can be disproved and how. (nanny cam) You can probably get them so cheap these days too.

Then brush your teeth and break out the nanny cam. lol

Moot point

 

This is what I believe. That Yahowah was the leader of a group of alien travelers Who, perhaps, tinkered with hominid dna and created modern humans. I wouldn't propose that this is true because the evidence is only conjecture. But I believe it. And I believe mankind can defeat Them in battle, should They return and attempt to finish the job They started with the Flood.

 

Everyone knows that Santa stopped giving coal to bad kids centuries ago. Way back before there were video cameras. Like how all of God's interaction with mankind occurred. I believe God or Yahowah or whatever is scared to come back to Earth

 

Since you believe that God is scared to come back to Earth, then there is the implicit declaration or admission of the existence of God.

 

Again, for about the hundreth time, no that is not what he means. People can deal in the hypothetical without saying "hypothetically" in their sentence.

 

Santa is afraid to enter my apartment.

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I'm not certain if this is relevant, but I do believe in God. . .I just do not believe in ANY "manmade" image of God, not Christian, not Muslim, not Hindu.

I believe God exists, but mostly within us, and around us. I believe that humans have felt the needs for many thousands years to assign an "image" that they could relate to to "God," and have made that "image" a religion, then added all the dogmas that better served their purpose.

I believe in "illuminated men," including Jesus, but not as "God," rather as a very thoughtful and attuned believer in a "greater" God. Basically one who was more in touch with HIS OWN inner God than most of us are. I believe that religion (all religions) is actually KILLING God, by superimposing a "human" image and understanding of God.

I believe that God didn't make human to his/her/its image, but rather than every human civilisation has created an image of God to fit their HUMAN image.

 

Jesus was fiction...

 

Agh, the Jesus Myth, the clarion call of the tin foil hat wearing atheist - so seeking of truth and fact .... you are now on the wrong side every academic opinion in the world (save a couple of crack pot atheists).

http://bede.org.uk/price1.htm

Of course, I bet you'll spend as much time as every other conspiracy nut who tossed out that dead cat to get a rise out of people? None.

Conclusion: Atheists are highly emotional people, who wear tin foil hats, and enjoy attempting to twist someone's faith into a insult for kicks. Nice.

 

The academic opinion of the world tends away from theism these days, actually, unless you're restricting yourself to biased Christian "scholars."

 

Right, tin foil hat wearing conspiracy.

And, as predicted, failed to read the source, many of whom are period academics who are atheists and secular humanists. Why let facts get in the way of a perfectly good set of overlapping conspiracy theories.

YEAH ATHEISM.

Why would anyone leave that?

 

Your link's author, like you, doesn't go into any evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ, but rather simply treats the opinion that Christ was mythological with condescension, again like you do. You believe that a man for whom there exists no contemporary record, most notably no Roman or otherwise secular record, and who is purported to have been born of a virgin, died, come back to life and floated up into the sky, just as other sun-based mythological figures purportedly did before him, was real. Further, you adopt the attitude that believing in this magical man and the claims about him is the reasonable position to take.

Asinine. Ludicrous. Laughable. ...