Unarmed Naked 18 Year Old College Freshmen Shot and Killed By Local Police

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  1. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    how do you know the cop didn't think she was going to get raped?
     
  3. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Wear a chastity belt.
     
  4. mikezila

    mikezila New Member

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    then you'd (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about her not being able to run down suspects..
     
  5. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    There is no mention of gender at all. And besides that is not an excuse. Why didn't this officer have a taser? Why didn't this officer call for backup? Why was the officer's first idea to use a gun.
     
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    maybe her dept. doesn't allow them to carry tasers? did you think about that Mr Smartiepants?

    if you have your gun drawn and they keep coming at you, speaking harshly at them isn't going to stop them.
     
  7. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    So run away and call for backup. You don't shoot an unarmed impaired person.
     
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    thank you, John Kerry!
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    " Run away", and leave a deranged acting idiot free to harm someone else?

    It's the police's JOB to protect others from such psychos.
     
  10. fiddlerdave

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    Gee, do we have to tell highly trained police where to KICK to disable a man with the target dangling right in FRONT of them? :roll:
     
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    This all seems completely reasonable.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Bill, these are questions that get answered by an investigation. That's why a lynch mob mentality is always wrong.
     
  13. Leo2

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    Actually, from this section of the report, it would appear the officer was a man.

    http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/loc...sa-student-attacks-officer-is-shot-and-killed

    Also, I am curious as to how one 'vertically challenges' an officer (see the next paragraph).
     
  14. Indofred

    Indofred Banned at Members Request

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    You're talking crap.
    The piece uses the pronoun, He, so we can assume it was a male officer.
    There is also mention of how a man, acting in a very strange manner while totally naked, threatened an officer who has his weapon drawn.

    There was also mention the dead man was strong.
    A well trained wrestler could well inflict life threatening injuries on a man.

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    Sorry, didn't the OP research before he spouted?
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    I'd love to see our PF progressives go hand to hand with a bath salt zombie. Let's just say that the progressive would be left naked and crying and the zombie would be having a cigarette afterwards.
     
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    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    Why isn't shooting someone a last resort?
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Bill left all of this out.
     
  18. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    Okay. This guy was apparently aggressive and not in his right mind but I would think with a police station right behind you, presumably holding more policemen and tasers, clubs, tear gas and such, there was a better way to handle things. Maybe I'm wrong.
     
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    Indofred Banned at Members Request

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    Hang on a second, old chap.
    I know you're high on drugs and want attack me, but i just need to pop in and get a load more officers.
    You'll wait here?
    That's great, see you in a minute and, if you want to bring a few more crazed lunatics later, I'll hang on for you.
     
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    We have no idea what help he had at hand. He might have had no choice. We have no idea how many people were working at a college PD. He might have been alone at the station. He could have been a retired police officer working a second job at a "quieter" area. How many people here at PF would go hand to hand with a madman like this? I'm pretty sure Bill never considered all this.
     
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    Indofred Banned at Members Request

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    That's about it.
    If you're confronted with an idiot, perhaps high on something and clearly strong, you protect yourself.
    What happens if the guy had got the cop's gun and gone on the rampage?
    There would be questions about why the cop didn't shoot.

    looks like the cop made the right choice in this case. A direct hand to hand would have ended with the cop down and, probably and armed idiot.
    Did anyone bother to find anything out about the kid and his wrestling skills or was it easier to ignore facts so you can have a go at the copper?
     
  22. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    That's how you'd expect a civilain to act. Not a cop. I'd fully understand if a civilain shot him. I would not understand if a cop, trained in hand to hand combat and armed with non-lethal tools and several other trained cops as backup, would find the need to use a gun
     
  23. Yosh Shmenge

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    OR...thie officer could simply yell out for help or use his personal radio (usually attached to shoulder strap).

    That should do it.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Well, that's the joy of being a Monday Morning QB. You get to question the police or military no matter how things turn out.
     
  25. Yosh Shmenge

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    All likely possibilities, but it's also possible that none of these exigencies existed. We just don't know.

    But even if your scenarios are correct any officer carrying a side arm would have been able to shoot someone at close range in the arms or legs, or both, instead of firing a kill shot into the chest as a FIRST resort! Nothing changes that.
     

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