Obama's plan to raise revenue

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  1. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your wrong. Guess you and I will have to agree to disagree on this thread.
     
  2. Dan40

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    The "pseudo Great Recession" ENDED in June 2009, long before any 10% unemployment, and long before any of b.o.'s failed fixes took place. When the Stimulus was passed in Feb. 2009 I said that b.o. had just extended the bad economy by 2 years. I was wrong, he extended the bad economy by a still to be determined amount of time. Had obama DONE NOTHING, the economy would be further recovered now.

    Also the ONLY significant event in our Federal Government between full employment and a recession was not any major or minor policy change. The only significant event was that Democrats won the mid-term elections of 2006, and were seated with majority control of both the House and the Senate on Jan 3, 2007. Shortly thereafter, the economy went into the crapper. So the misnamed Bush Recession is actually the DEMOCRAT CONGRESS RECESSION of 2008. What the ignorant, incompetent, buffoon "inherited" was that Democrat Congress!

    Reagan faced a worse recession. With HIGHER unemployment rates, a double digit inflation, and a double dip recession. In ONE term he had unemployment low, MORE people employed than any previous President,** and double digit inflation under control without phony manipulations from the Fed Reserve. HOW? Exactly how obama's personally hand picked fiscal commission, recommended to the incompetent buffoon in 2010. Rewrite the tax code, lower taxes for everyone, reduce regulations dramatically AND GET OUT OF THE WAY. EXACTLY what Reagan did. Pull in the govt and get out of the economy's way. But the Marxist/Communist buffoon was ideologically UNABLE to even consider that PROVEN and wise approach. So his stupidity continues. b.o.'s incompetence is only matched by his unwarranted arrogance.

    **obama's total employment is MILLIONS behind Bush's employment numbers and barely above Clinton's employment numbers. So the ignorant, incompetent, buffoon has a slight lead in total employment over a President that left office 12 years ago. b.o.'s failure approaches immeasurablity. Hard to imagine that ANYONE could be taken in by the smooth talk of this outrageous failure. But many liberals ARE that stupid.
     
  3. rahl

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  4. Dan40

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    So what you got is a brainwashed mantra? I post facts, you revert to OOmmm, OOmmm, OOmmm. Understandable when making excuses for the total dumb ass failure b.o.
     
  5. rahl

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    no, I just don't feel like typing the same refutation over and over again.

    you posted no facts, only your complete revision of history, and total partisan hackery.
     
  6. Dan40

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    If the economy is in better shape and b.o. the incompetent liar, is the champion of the middle class. WHY are they making $4300. LESS per household since he took office? I laughingly await your blaming of Bush and the rich for b.o.'s miserable low wage jobs. Having been the employer of thousands of people myself, the FACT is the more they made, the better I liked it because that meant I made more. And the harder it was for a competitor to lure anyone away. The mediocre employees were fired without a second thought. Life is hard.
     
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    Do you even know what a recession is? You realise this is the worst recession in 80 years right?
     
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    Yes I'm aware of what a recession is and am also aware of the standard FALSE liberal propaganda. I'm also aware of what is necessary to run a successful business, which I have done, more than once.

    I asked before, what major event happened between full employment under Bush and a recession? The ONLY thing that happened is that Democrats took control of both Houses of Congress. Federal revenue had been increasing for 4 years, to still RECORD levels in FY2007 and deficits had been dropping for 4 years, to under $200 billion. $160.7 billion. And within 18 months of Democrats taking control we were in what you insist was the worst recession in 80 years. Are you AWARE that obama's deficit for this past QUARTER of FY 2012, the deficit exceeded $200 billion? Just one QUARTER after 4 years in office and STILL the incompetent, ignorant buffoon's last QUARTER deficit was well over the entire last YEAR of Republican control.

    Make you excuses for this massive failure, I need the laughs!
     
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    lol, the ONLY thing that happened between bush taking office and the worst recession in 80 years was democrats took control of both houses?

    and you want to be taken seriously?
     
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    Well, it does contradict your words, "[o]nly a pure partisan hack would claim the economy is not better now, than when obama first took office" (which I did not quote in my previous post).
     
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    How is it "wors[e]," precisely, than the recession that Ronald Reagan inherited from Jimmy Carter, almost 32 years ago?
     
  12. Dan40

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    NOT the question I asked. Dodge FAIL!
     
  13. rahl

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    real estate crashed, the stock market crashed, the auto industry was on the verge of collapse, the financial industry was on the verge of collapse, 700,000 jobs per month were being lost..................................
     
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    lol, you said the ONLY thing that happened between bush taking office and the worst recession in 80 years was democrats took control of both houses.

    and you want to be taken seriously?
     
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    Even if he raised taxes on the rich like he wants to....it's not enough to continue his spending like he wants to. No way. It only hurts our country more.....
     
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    Until YOU learn to read, no one, least of all an employer, will take you seriously. I asked what happened between FULL EMPLOYMENT under Bush and the recession. AND told you the ONLY significant happening, Democrats took control of both Houses of Congress.

    FULL EMPLOYMENT under Bush achieved 10/2006, 4.4%, Republican Congress. Highest rate from there until Democrats took control was 4.7% in 8/2007.

    10/2007 new Fiscal Year starts controlled by Democrats in both Houses of congress, U rate, 4.7%. 12/2007 5%. 6/2008 5.6%. 12/2008, 7.3%. 6/2009 9.5%. http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost

    The major change between FULL EMPLOYMENT under Bush and recession was a DEMOCRAT CONGRESS.

    Under Republicans from FY 2004 thru FY 2007 Revenue rose, deficits dropped and employment went from nearly full to completely full. Then Democrats took over and we are where we are today.

    Now make your silly assed excuses or diversions. I couldn't care less what you do. But look up the word fact and try posting one for a real change.
     
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    and you expect to be taken seriously?
     
  18. Dan40

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    I knew you had nothing. It must really suck to be a liberal and live in a fantasy world.

    A liberal take me seriously?

    You don't take a $16.3 TRILLION debt serious.

    You don't take the longest highest unemployment in recorded history serious.

    You don't take 4 Trillion dollar deficits serious.

    You don't take the most divisive president in history, serious.

    You don't take an unending string of lies from your incompetent unqualified president serious.

    You don't take US territory being attacked by terrorist and 4 Americans being murdered serious.

    You don't take your incompetent lying president making up a nonsense story about a video, serious.

    WHY, would I expect you to take the TRUTH serious?
     
  19. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    If you want to refute what I said then do so, else state what it is you need a source for, go get your own copy of the government provided GDP numbers. Try whitehouse.gov then OMB.
     
  20. Bluesguy

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    [​IMG] Originally Posted by Bluesguy [​IMG]
    They have nothing to do with him asking the wealthy to pay some more to the treasury.



    How am I wrong? How can Republicans stop Obama from simply asking the wealthy to send more money to the treasury? He could do it tomorrow, he could have done it any time the last 4 years.
     
  21. Bluesguy

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    The recession wasn't the recovery has been.

    So Obama says the answer is to ask the wealthy to pay more to the treasury. So why hasn't he? What's he waiting on.
     
  22. Bluesguy

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    What does that have to do with Obama's plan to fix it by asking the wealthy to pay more revenues into the treasury?
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    He said he was just going to ask them to do it. So why hasn't he?
     
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    Obama's plan to raise revenues: Raise my taxes.
     
  25. Iriemon

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    You say it as if it doesn't make sense.
     

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