To my fellow business owners, we now must scramble

Sorry but are going to have to pay up now. America has spoken and have rejected the tea party extremism and have also rejected trickle down economics. Its time to pay your fair share, and like it.

 

Actually it is all over. There is a lacking at the border and all this anti discrimination BS causes many to get hired because companies fear a federal lawsuit.

 

Hardly the first time, 'Fraud.

 

I received the letter that no rebate would be forthcoming

Did you not read where I'm now speaking with my accountant and atty? This new tax and govt control (obamacare) is a mess and nobody seems to understand it.

I suggest that you remove your head from the sand and speak with your employer and ask about their concerns

 

please stop the misinformed rant. My questions were to those who own businesses and how they are addressing it. Obviously you are clueless in that respect

And about the cost of health care, and note that i said the cost of health care, the Obamacare law did nothing to address that. Where was the tort reform? Where were relaxed regulations? I have no dog in the fight with respect to insurance but it is obvious that Obamacare is a path to going single payer. You will become part of your desirable collective then, and hopefully will never be told that your wife is too old to receive chemo or other life saving/extending teatments.

Despite what you think, medical care isn't free and rationing must be done if you want the govt to run it

 

I already pay. You can't take more from me personally because I've drawn ZERO salary for over 2 months. Dodd/Frank killed lines of credit and managing cash flow is a major challenge. I continue to pay my employees.

Honestly, i'm reviewing the entire business and may cease activity in some markets because the contribution is no longer sufficient. I'll probably cut staff, reduce size and make the same profit so I can finally again draw a salary.

Those are the realities they don't teach in college or talk about in liberal circles. What you so desperately desire, the govt to provide the basics, will do nothing but make everyone poorer, not better.

And please spare me the "fair share" crap.

 

To an American liberal anyone who owns a business must be a tycoon that can just magically reach into their wallet and take care of any new expense.

 

One thing I think you'll definitely be seeing, is businesses that have over 50 employees trying to shed enough employees to get below the 50 mark so they can avoid all of this.

 

my problem with some of you is that you don't admit that the current healtcare system is a failure... the costs in this country are outrageous compared to all other developed countries..even per capita compared to nationalized systems.

the fact is that about 40 million americans are uninsured and this is a terrible thing, not only morally but economically too. The ones running into ERs are driving costs up and up and up...

and healthcare is a funademental right... discriminating against the sick, those with pre-existing conditions is immoral. How would you feel if insurance companies deny your coverage cause you have a pre-existing condition? or jack up your premiums up and up when you are sick? but of course, you all think this 'okay' cause it's the 'private market' but again you fail to admit it has been a total failure. How is it possible that the US has the highest healthcare costs (twice as much compared to several developed countries)??? the private product is defective, it's horse(*)(*)(*)(*)..

of course you ignore that the bill was passed to bring healthcare costs down but you don't wanna talk about that do you? I can explain but i'll let you read up on it, educate yourself

lasltly, on your business.. you will be just fine and you know it. In fact, this same system has been implemented in Massachusetts so we can actually use the impacts as empirical evidence of whether it hurts or helps small business... agreed?

here's an acrticle i suggest you read:

 

please share with all of us how this affects the business you started; oops, you don't own a business do you?

It's pretty scary when accountants and lawyers say, and to quote "I don't know what to tell you because I don't fully understand all the implications" is not very reassuring and one cannot make decisions without facts.

And to your point about the cost of health care; the only way the govt can lower it is by fully controlling all medical services (nationalizing it) and dictating what will be paid. It is then when Dr and nursing shortages begin. But, that's just hysteria speaking; right?

My question is to business owners and what they are doing to address this. I am not interested in your spin and misinformed nonsense

 

Depends. What State are you in?

 

one of the lower 48 but I also have international offices and may move the majority of operations overseas. I need to find out all of that. I do not just sell into the USA. In fact, the majority of sales are international however given my druthers, I prefer to keep engineering and operations here but it is becoming increasingly a challenge.

 

For the most part though I would stop providing it, and help your employees sign up for the Affordable Insurance Exchange. Or just cut them off completely and let them figure it out if you if you don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Well where you sell doesn't have much to do with the health insurance issue, but do what makes sense to you as far as relocating.

 

Actually, it sounds more like you were trying to start yet another circle jerk thread among angry right-wingers looking for a way to vent after LOSING the election.
You would be better served taking a long and hard look at your ideology and ask yourself why it has failed so miserably.
If you keep up the puerile tantrums and nonsense like you did after 2008, you'll be back gnashing your teeth in 2016 after you get your asses handed to you yet again by voters who reject your self-centered notions.

 

Many doctors because of Obamacare are going concierge here in NYC only. I've noticed that some concierge packages will meet the standards, so maybe look into that for employees.

 

There you go. Anybody who can't see that is a moron. Unemployment would go to 3% by lunchtime tomorrow.

 

So, do what you want to do.
Your fired employees will find better jobs with more forward-thinking employers.
Who the hell wants to work for some disgruntled right-wing ideologue anyway?
Life's too short to put up with idiot employers.
If you go broke, well, you're on your own, as you folks like to remind everyone.
Someone with better business sense will take your place and make a success out of their business.

 

how is the business which you started addressing this? What did your accountant and lawyer tell you?

 

Conservatives are locked up in ideology as we both know. At one time, GM pushed for national health. Had they had it, there would have been no need for a bailout.

 

No you weren't.....you were looking to start an Obamacare bashing session

 

please define what is a "forward thinking employer"

as an employer yourself, what do you do for your employees which makes you different than most? How do you absorb the costs?

 

thank you for knowing what I am thinking. I would like to hear how your company which you started is addressing this. I was hoping for responses from those with experience and not liberal talking points.

 

You have no idea if your rates will go up and if so by how much.
They have been climbing every year for the last 12 so this is nothing new.
Your cost may go down, it's too early to tell.

You did get feed back from business owners, you just don't like that aren't playing into your hyperbolic game of lies misinformation.

 

how would finding one Dr who works on cash solve the problem for employees who reside 1500 miles away from the main office? I'm open to suggestions