Planned Parenthood Official Argues for Right to Post-Birth Abortion

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  1. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...-argues-right-post-birth-abortion_712198.html

    Watch the video if you don't believe the writing. This is just sick. Obama himself did not support a law in IL when he was a state sen that would have protected babies who were still alive after an abortion and they were living breathing human beings.
     
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    Ghouls
     
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    They are always pushing for the next "right". They will not stop with gay marriage. The more they can expand marriage, the more dependent spouses they can burden businesses or the gov't employer with.
     
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    Sounds great! Let Alisa LaPolt Snow be the first one.
     
  5. Consmike

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    I would suspect first born alive babies, the elderly sick.

    "would you please justify your existence"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQvsf2MUKRQ
     
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    In one case after another, we see the unbelievable SAVAGERY that is at the core of the Abortion fo Profit slaughter houses.

    Abortion mills are free of many of the safety/hygiene rules that hospitals and other surgery centers MUST ADHERE TO to STAY IN BUSINESS.

    INstead, we wind up with nightmare butcher shops like Tiller had for years, like we are learning about in the Philadelphia murder trial of another baby killer, and as exist, UNDER GOVERNMENT COVER, all over our nation.

    Abortion mills are PROTECTED from SCRUTINY, which is how nightmares like the one in Philidelpihia EXIST FOR YEARS...

    This MADNESS must end...but don't look for any such action under President "Punished With a Baby".
     
  7. Consmike

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    You can only imagine the horror that happens in back rooms in America. You wonder how many births happen, where the baby is destroyed to hide the evidence.
     
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    I know; give the kid a count of ten to get the hell out of there??

    Pretty sick to do an abortion at that age unless the kid is totally screwed up with no chance to have a life. It is hard for me to think that a woman would have a late term abortion if the baby has a chance at a self-aware life but i don't know.
     
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    One would think that the left, who supposedly are for more regulation and who talk about equality would be all over this as something we can agree on as being wrong.
     
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    Democrats have declared war on babies...
     
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    If you are not moving the "Forward!" forward, what good are you to secular humanist socialists?
     
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    You would think even left-wing Democrats would agree that, after a baby is born and is outside of the womb, killing him/her would be considered murder, but then again, liberals do like having money for iPhones and Starbucks. Babies are like, responsibilities, and junk. Like whatevs!
     
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    If I end up in the medical profession, I don't know if I'll ever be able to shake an abortionists' hand. Some "physician" they are...
     
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    I wonder what the life expectancy and the health challenges a abortion-survived baby faces?
     
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    I wonder if there will ever be a limit on abortion? First birthday? Tenth birthday? Eighteenth birthday?

    These people are like the Palestinians. Every inch you concede to them becomes "theirs" and a launching pad to take more away.
     
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    "To do NO HARM..."


    The Hippocratic Oath


    The full text from the "Harvard Classics" Translation.



    I SWEAR by Apollo the physician and AEsculapius, and Health, and All-heal, and all the gods and goddesses, that, according to my ability and judgment, I will keep this Oath and this stipulation -- to reckon him who taught me this Art equally dear to me as my parents, to share my substance with him, and relieve his necessities if required; to look upon his offspring in the same footing as my own brothers, and to teach them this art, if they shall wish to learn it, without fee or stipulation; and that by precept, lecture, and every other mode of instruction, I will impart a knowledge of the Art to my own sons, and those of my teachers, and to disciples bound by a stipulation and oath according to the law of medicine, but to none others. I will follow that system of regimen which, according to my ability and judgement, I consider for the benefit of my patients, and abstain from whatever is deleterious and mischievous. I will give no deadly medicine to any one if asked, nor suggest any such counsel; and in like manner I will not give to a woman a pessary to produce abortion. With purity and with holiness I will pass my life and practice my Art . I will not cut persons labouring under the stone, but will leave this to be done by men who are practitioners of this work. Into whatever houses I enter, I will go into them for the benefit of the sick, and will abstain from every voluntary act of mischief and corruption; and, further, from the seduction of females or males, of freemen and slaves. Whatever, in connection with my professional service, or not in connection with it, I see or hear, in the life of men, which ought not to be spoken of abroad, I will not divulge, as reckoning that all such should be kept secret. While I continue to keep this Oath unviolated, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and the practice of the art, respected by all men, in all times. But should I trespass and violate this Oath, may the reverse be my lot.

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    No ethical conflict for abortionists there, huh?
     
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    If the child is alive after a botched abortion, I would suspect a normal life. No matter what challenges it faces, its still a human being.
     
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    Never said otherwise. Just tried to find some stats and couldn't. Personally If its born alive, keep it alive. Once it leaves the womans body it becomes its own person and subjected to the same rights as other persons. I don't think late term abortions should be allowed, but as there is no defining point between a clump of cells and a conscious human, we have defined that point as the ejection from womb to world.
     
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    Right. The thought though of someone representing planned parent hood making the case that it would be ok to kill a living human being is scary.
     
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    They didn't make any such case though. They punted and said that it was up to the mother and the physician. A big difference.
     
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    Whether it happens to be good or bad, I would think that if this kind of scenario is playing out enough times to warrant arguing for post birth abortion rights then it shows we have 0 business offering this procedure at all. Once that baby comes out it's outright murder. Time to end the practice altogether.
     
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    Why would you expect a baby who was being aborted at a stage in a pregnancy that it COULD be breathing would lead a "normal life"? Abortions in late stages of pregnancy are done because of severe health risks to either the mother or the child. If the child is being aborted because of hydrocephalus, brain abnormalities, no brain, organs on the outside of its body and/or other defects that would prevent its leading a normal life, why would being born breathing miraculously make it able to lead a normal life? People in a vegetative state can be kept breathing with a machine and kept from starving to death with a feeding tube - do you consider them to be leading a "normal life"?

    If an abortion is being done because of severe health risks to the mother, and the mother survives the abortion and the baby survives the abortion and appears to be healthy, why would anybody kill it? Leaving the decision to the parents and their doctor is the logical, reasonable thing to do. They know why they were doing the abortion in the first place and what the health risks to both are. Your assumption that all babies being aborted are healthy and viable and the mothers and doctors are all selfish and evil could not be more wrong. It doesn't even begin to make any kind of sense.
     
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    They should have said 100% without a doubt would planned parent hood not kill the child after it was born.

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    We are talking about after an abortion, the baby is still alive, out of the womb. Are you ok with that baby being killed or just left to die?
     

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