In her mind.....yes she is being asked to compromise her faith......and that is a violation of her Constitutional rights......the street runs both ways.....unless we are to just become a totalitarian regime with people being instructed to think and act like the the people in power believe......there's gonna be a revolution.....and it won't be pretty......the serpent's egg.....
This really pisses me off.... yet some pharmacists are allowed to refuse to fill birth control prescriptions b/c it goes against their religious beliefs........
"secular" * progressives backed themselves in a corner supporting Muzzies' religious rights... (for nothing more complicated than pandering to more useful idiot votes)....which are not so openly "supportive" of homosexuality...or the civil liberties of women. * "secular" generally only applies to the Christian and Jewish faiths.
where have you been? I no longer recognize my old state of NH. Good ole yankee frugality was the norm with home rule and town meeting the way to run most towns. It's become an annex of Mass and liberal. They should change the motto from "live free or die" to " we really screwed the pooch"
Anyone defending this is an idiot! Contraceptives, or some other form of HC, i can atleast see the arguement. You don't have any right to have pretty flowers at your wedding you whinney little bi#ches! Listen to Bill Maher on this, this is the crap that no one, but a loud few on the left support. The people that support this are the equivilent of the right's racist, sh$t kicking, redn#cks! Just living on a different planet then the rest of us!
Wow. This is the first time on this forum that I can can say, I'm proud standing by liberals. Comment like you just made are embarrassing.
So the war against Christianity continues. Careful what you wish for, laws alone won't change peoples' minds. There are loopholes in every law, using them effectively would be far more damaging to those one wishes to discriminate against without the fear of such petty lawsuits as this. This lawsuit, regardless of outcome will likely ruin this small business, legal fees alone will see to that. Many with similar beliefs to this business owner will be watching such things, and figure out ways around it. The next flower shop owner might take a different approach. They might well agree to the follow the law, but upon the actual date of the 'wedding' might load up the delivery vehicle and find four flat tires, upon changing such they notice the brakes are bad, and sadly there are no laws that cover mechanical failure, and few if any assurances under the law that protect against such. Granted the owner would have to pay back money they never wanted in the first place and potentially more in a civil lawsuit, but still far less than fighting the state. The simple truth is that 'discrimination' lawsuits are easy to beat, this country has all sorts of 'protected' peoples, its like a sliding scale, some are more 'protected' than others. If one has a desire to discriminate, there are others, more 'protected' that can be used to eliminate the fear of discriminating against the 'lessers'. Personally I wouldn't want this country to come to that, but if some insist, it will, so like I said, be careful what you wish for...
I think we will find that if you advertise a business to the public, you are obliged to do as you advertised. You can't decide to discriminate. I suppose she can be like the atheists holding their nose while they spend money promising to trust an imaginary god. Be thankful homosexuals aren't as pushy as Christians, because otherwise they'd picket her store day and night, all perfectly legally.
And the gay couple could have just gone to another shop and found someone who would have made their wedding cake for them....it goes BOTH ways. The gay couple couldn't handle hearing 'no' ... like a couple of kids.
If it's legal to refuse a service to someone not wearing shoes, why the hell shouldn't it be legal to refuse service to someone whose life-style you don't agree with? I'm pro gay marriage equality, etc, but infringing on anyone's right to free speech is unacceptable.
Where is the 'freedom' if you eliminate the freedom to discriminate? I'm not buying the concept of one mind one country. To me that reeks of failure. The freedom to discriminate almost always harms the discriminator more than laws ever could. Lets be honest here, there are more groups that would hate true equality than those who would accept it. Today there are numerous 'special' groups, if we attained true equality they wouldn't exist, nor would they go down without a fight. True equality dismisses the ideas that liberals espouse, that some need 'special' treatment and attention to attain the same level as others...
No one should have to hear "no" based on such a ridiculous reason as their sexual orientation. And, she broke state law. The only childish person I see is a lady who can't get over her prejudices and sell her product fairly.
even if there is a law protecting those who claim to be gay, what method was used to validate that the 2 people actually engage in gay relations and can then try and punish the florist?
Not a "freedom of speech issue", she could have sold them the flowers while telling them she didn't approve of their lifestyle. And not wearing shoes really isn't the same as being in love and celebrating your commitment to another human being in what is supposed to be the happiest day of their lives. Nor is refusing to wear shoes demonised and discriminated against in the same way gays are. For someone pro-SSM, I thought you'd have the sense to realise these things.
Wow.... you need to get out more. Muslims have killed people who defamed/ridiculed their Mo...... Have you ever heard of suicide bombers? They're Muslims killing infidels ... and themselves b/c they're promised Paradise w/73 virgins.
??? You're saying we can't know whether this is a valid case of discrimination because we can't possibly know for sure that the same-sex couple who married eachother are in fact gay?
Why do you feel the need to interfere with our internal issues? Your flags say UK, so why must you feel the need to get involved with our issues? Has the UK become as utopia? I wish you people the best, but really, until you fix your own messes, your opinion can't be taken with much regard...
No what's hilarious, is you and your gay buddies Gestapo think you havevthe right to force a woman against her will, to deliver flowers to a gay wedding. (*)(*)(*)(*) what she feels, huh? The nerve of you people.