Hypocrite alert!!! "you must do as I say, not as I do. You have to respect my views, and I don't have respect your views." there I summed it up for you. And by the way dumb ass, I'm a atheist, that happens to believe people have the right not to be forced into anything they don't want to do. That's the difference between me and you, I have respect door other people's liberties, and you do not, unless they are in line with your idiotic ideology.
Frankly, I don't see much difference. In the State of Washington, gay marriage is legal. No one asked the florist to sanction the marriage they asked a florist to provide flowers.
Lots of people can provide flowers, if one chooses not to, what's the problem? Are we really supposed to accept this is about providing flowers? We all know its not...
How many times do you have to be told that your labeling someone hateful bigot is irrelevant. What are you going to force at gun point to (*)(*)(*)(*)ing deliver flowers? Wow
You just gave a perfect description of Islam...... Oh yeah.... in Muslim-land, gays are so discriminated against, they are hung. You did know that, didn't you?
Of course you are all for discrimination. True equality scares most people, because they'd all be judged exclusively by their merits. This is no different, its simply 'political' but move it to the true level of what is supposedly 'sought' and see how many would cringe... Reality is that people are not equal, some have skills that others don't. Very few want to face that world, so we divide it up, and avoid it. Where would you be if you were judged solely by your merits? Being 'equal' under the law doesn't really change that, so we add new levels of laws to maintain a balance of those who can and can't... Civilization wouldn't exist if 'might makes right' didn't exist, because that's just how the natural world works, and humans feel they are above that, but they aren't... If you take the time to think through human history, most laws are designed to protect those who possess power, whether military or economic or whatnot, and they leave to those who don't to fight those battles, while the powerful remain in power. This can be seen from the earliest civilizations all the way up to the present. A truly equal world, where everyone is based entirely on their individual ability would shatter such concepts, and at this point, nobody wants that.
hmmm, so how do you feel about scholarships which are exclusively for gays and cross dressers? http://www.gayscholarships.us/
I know we don't agree on many things, but thanks... I think if we shed a part of our concepts on our society and look to the bigger picture, we can truly make an equal world, and then we will be at our best. Some will be sheep, some will be shepards, and some will be predators, but that is what we made ourselves, so its ok... I simply don't believe that most really want such an equality...
That won't fly. There is nothing in the bible saying you can't sell flowers to homosexuals. And I doubt you would support this crap if it weren't a) homosexuals being victimised and b) being defended on religious grounds. Your religion does not allow you to violate the rights of others, which is what the Consumer Protection Act is there to help ensure - that people cannot be discriminated against for arbitrary reasons. Does this florist refuse to decorate weddings for people who get married after committing adultery? Or people who "tarry long at the wine"? *L* - - - Updated - - - No surprise there, sadly. Time and again, we see that they'll violate the law of the land any time they feel their religion justifies it, and then they'll holler and scream about their religious rights if anyone calls them on it. It's sickening.
If changing your sexual orientation AND your marriage partner were as simple as putting on a pair of shoes, then I'd agree. But again, if you are advertising a service to the public, you are agreeing to serve the public.
Lol~ yeah, I know..... "it's getting so..." is a laugh. But all of the other 49... I mean, 57 states.... btw, what ARE the names of the other 8 states Obama said we have? Is that another big government secret? There are some southern states that are pretty Conservative, but dam! I hate the heat! So, I'll stay here and argue w/my Liberal neighbors....
I'm not a Christian, I'd never sully such fine people with pretending I'm as moral as most of them are... Your ilk goes after them, and often wins, simply because you can win, they really are good moral people. If you faced the likes of me everyday and they supported one such as me, you would be destroyed...
Something about these Abrahamic religions, I guess. Western religions are characteristically intolerant, my way or the highway religions. Contrast with Eastern religions like Hindu, which regards Christianity as simply another legitimate path to nirvana, no better or worse than any other. A level of tolerance incomprehensible to Christians or Muslims.
It's THEIR business, not the state's. Since the state law violates the Freedom of Association clause of the First Amendment, the state law is null and void. Too bad the United States no longer has honest courts. If someone wants to turn away business, that's their problem and their choice. Why is it in the ******* universe that the ONLY people allowed to have "freedom of choice" are women who want to murder their babies?
It's not entirely their fault. Jesus purportedly said that he alone was the way to his papa in the sky. Like Muslims, Christians are bound by their book to be ********s. - - - Updated - - - And now comes more ******* WAAAH!! bawling and whining about abortion, which has nothing whatsoever to do with this thread topic.
Wow, another person who believes you have the right to force a businessmen to provide goods and services. (*)(*)(*)(*), I give up already. This country is truly (*)(*)(*)(*)ed.
Yeah, wouldn't expect you to address the point that you people only have one definition of freedom: People doing what you chose to be acceptable. Having run a business, and having made thousands of dollars personally selling "wedding" cakes to lesbian couples and homosexual couples, the Mayor flatly doesn't give a crap who marries who, not even if they marry 32 of them together in a daisy chain. Not his problem. Now a florist had a different idea for running her own business, and the fascists are demanding that if she doesn't run it they way they approve it, then she must be punished. And, naturally, the fascists don't like it when their fascist acts are identified for what they are. That's because the fascist in America can't survive exposure. The only intolerance he can tolerate is his own. Everyone else MUST OBEY. The movie They Live...was about you fascists, not the capitalists yuppies the movie was skewering. The only problem is that you fascists have to steal your bubblegum.
Maybe you'll get lucky and Texas will secede. Then you can pass laws requiring everyone to Pray their assess off, shoot all the Meskins and queers, and praize Jeezus. You'd be so happy you could just ****.
I don't do religion, it's not my thing. But if Texas leaving means not having to put up with you little fascist, I'm in. - - - Updated - - - I don't do religion, it's not my thing. But if Texas leaving means not having to put up with you little fascist, I'm in.
No customer in a pharmacy should have to hear 'no' from the pharmacist in refusing to fill her prescription for BC pills b/c of his religious beliefs about birth control..... but it's been happening and he has the law protecting him..... If the law is going to protect these pharmacists & their religious beliefs, then it should also be protecting this woman's...........