What Is Main Lesson To BE Learned From the Zimmerman Case ?

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  1. fifthofnovember

    fifthofnovember Well-Known Member

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    It's just more of the same people being played by the media...again.


    What do I think is the most important lesson to be learned? White people will ALWAYS be blamed, even in an incident where no white people were even present.
     
  2. JohnnyMo

    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    Excellent, as did I.

    My Granddaughter warms my heart, murder trials not so much.
     
  3. CyberCynic

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    I'm pretty sure New York does not allow a self defense defense. I'll try to research it. I know when I heard of it years ago, I understood it, although I disagreed with it.
     
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    You disagreed with a self-defense defense ? HA HA HA. Do you also think the world is flat ? :roll:
     
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    I disagree that New York does not allow it as a defense. And until I get to go up in one of those space ships, and see for myself - the world is flat.
     
  6. protectionist

    protectionist Banned

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    Your words (thankfully), not mine. :roll:
     
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    He had the cash to buy the vigorous defense?
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    Many people understand it perfectly. You got the cash? You get the defense you want.
     
  9. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    How did cash change the outcome for Zimmerman ? You act as if jurors look at the price of a lawyer and then make a decision. Explain what his lawyers did that others could have not?
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    Gimme a break man.

    Style over substance? Dragging in concrete blocks into the courtroom? That kind of stuff? Any lawyer probably "could" defend anybody properly, but it doesn't mean they do. Large piles of cash seem to "enhance" the likelihood of getting the verdict one desires. It costs the average person too much money to even get to that kind of defense. PD's don't exactly go over everything with a fine toothed comb, do they? Wonder why? You have enough cash, you can even have multiple lawyers "working" for your best interests.
     
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    That directly contradicts Don's statement.
     
  12. dwatson23

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    Every day, young White folk are gunned down, or worse, by Black and other racial groupings. However, you never hear one lick of it on the news. George Zimmerman and Treyvon Martin have it out and Z ends up shooting M, and all of a sudden the nation is in an uproar. Z is evil whitey. But think to yourself for a moment, If George Zimmerman didn't shoot Treyvon Martin, and instead was voted in to be President of the United States.... All of a sudden, George Zimmerman would be heralded as the "First Hispanic President", A Great Leader of the Latino Community... but because he shot a Black Teenager.. all of a sudden he is evil Whitey and a vehement "racist" and all White People should be blamed.

    You say you're "against racism", but what you really are is "against Whites"

    Anti-racist is a codeword for Anti-White.
     
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    For one thing, they could hire a quack doctor to lie for them.
     
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    MOM has threatened to ask for an SYG hearing if the Martins do not drop their plans for a civil suit. The right wing gun nut sites have also been citing it as a reason that the cops were so causal about not arresting the little psychopath.
     
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    SYG or immunity? ....derp!
     
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    So maybe your problem should be with lawyers who won't do their job unless a large pile of cash is in front of them ?

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    Proof that he lied . Rule # 10 being called on . No bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claims allowed .
     
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    Immunity would require application of SYG.
     
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    I love how the left hate any government employed lawyer. They are always saying how these people aren't any good. If only we had more money we could of hired better lawyers or he won because he had money to buy better lawyers. It strange how big government people hate government lawyers and think privite lawyers are better.

    So private sector employees are better then public employees is what you are saying. I agree with you. So why want a larger government of less capable employees?
     
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    That crap about reducing the displaced fracture of fat boy's nose, for one. I would expect, also, that, since he addressed the matter in one of his books, he should have recognized the marks left by a pistol-whipping.
     
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    So it's just your opinion ? No evidence ? You must declare its just an opinion ... Read rule 10.
     
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    Where does this belief of black people come from? This belief that beating white people in the street has any part in a civilized society? Seems all to common.
     
  22. Dark Star

    Dark Star Senior Admin Staff Member Donor

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    I'm sorry, but Rule #10 is not something we're going to invoke every time someone makes a dubious remark. We just can't split hairs that finely, or we'd be shutting down half the threads on the board. It's meant to be used only in extreme cases, to keep a thread from being completely derailed by posters who base their argument on repeated assertions they have no way of backing up. Leftysergeant is making a good case for his assertion. We're staying out of it at this point.
     
  23. Riot

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    Why can the left call people fat? Was there a actress from the movie Baby that was called fat and the left was up in arms? Seems a little hypocritical
     
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    Well since it is a matter of record through testimony and supported by evidence, I would deem it pretty accurate, sucks don't it?

    Your guess would be wrong. I formulate my own opinions after examining all the evidence. Don't you know what happens when you assume things?


    It is a definite tragedy. But you're being dishonest, more on that later...

    Throwing a punch, then mounting and continuing an assault, that he instigated and escalated.

    I can take being ugly or however you want to word it, what I can't take is the constant excusal of the fact that the bleeding heart left would be fully content with sending a man to jail for the rest of his life for not commiting a crime. So did sit there on your high horse and pretend you are holier than thou, when you know damn well if you were in Zimmerman's shoes you would have reacted the same way. The fact remains that Trayvon Martin is dead today for no other reason than his own actions. You scream so much about wanting Zimmerman to "take responsibility" yet excuse Martin for his wrong doings. What hypocrasy. I sleep very well at night knowing the justice system despite being railroaded by the bloodthirsty race mongerers performed the way it should, and got the right. Its tragic a youth is dead, indeed it is. But he is dead because of his own actions, and no one is responible for that but himself.
     
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    The question I asked, why do convenience stores have signs that say no hoody's up when you enter?

    And hides the face.

    He had his hoody and such small awnings would provide little protection if he was walking at a normal pace and NO you don't walk under a private patio, back of a private house even if it is raining. It gave an reasonable appearance of suspicion.

    Your entire specious assertions about the difference is sizes went down the toilet at trial just give it up. But you do realize you have blown away yours and others assertions that Zimmerman was at one time on top of Martin for surely you wouldn't believe that Martin could have gotten Zimmerman off of him had that ever been the case.

    Because I deal with the evidence and witness statements of which there is none indicating Martin was ever in danger let alone imminent danger of serious bodily harm. What evidence do you have that he was? None.

    You let out assaulting someone who was merely observing you.
     
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