U.S. drone strike on Yemen wedding party kills 17

http://www.latimes.com/world/worldn...edding-20131213,0,4137970.story#axzz2nNaogT7l

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Great, killing people nowadays are like playing nintendo.

Where are Obama's hopes and changes?

 

I am sorry, but there are no easy solutions or ways to do this.

The other side KNOWS that if they keep civilians close to them, it may lower the chances we would attack them.

Do we attack with actual people, putting them at great risk? Do we just not attack and allow them to go on with their lives, which may involve them targeting and attacking us?

What options would you recommend?

 

But according to a new book, the president is proud of his drone strikes.

Double Down: Game Change 2012 , a book about the 2012 presidential campaign, claims that Obama told his aides he is “really good at killing people.”

[The quote was first reported on in the Washington Post’s review of the new book, by Mark Halperin and John Heilemann.]

 

If we really have to take care of those guys, SEALs, CIA field ops... there are too many ways to do this.

17 people... this definitely makes us look worse than those darn terrorists... for the moment.

 

Papa, I must confess: I enjoy killing!

— Letter from Che to his father in Argentina, 1960s

Well what do they say? Birds of A feather...

 

Where were republicans when Bush was killing Iraqi civilians by the the tens of thousands?

 

The best thing about drones is "No more adding to the GITMO population!

And keeping things in perspective:

Water Boarding (no casualties) WRONG

Droning (killing innocent civilians) OK

 

True, but those ways put our troops in harms way. Are those foreign civilians more important to you than the American troops?

Like I said, there is really no easy fix or solution for this issue. Either way, we look like a loser.

 

It absolutely IS the wrong thing to do. We don't kill civilians, period. Outlawed in warfare as early as the WWI, most member nations try to adhere to this as much as possible. Our own freaking Constitution basically forbids the military from using civilians as shields. Drones are criminal weapons of mass destruction and have always been criminal weapons of mass destruction.

Not only are they weapons of mass destruction, but they disgrace the battlefield by turning it into a game. You said sending troops on the ground is like playing minesweeper. This is like playing Call of Duty, except it's real and we're talking about real people.

"I believe that true beauty and noblity comes only in battles with others, and human life should be given the utmost respect. I truly love and respect every person who have died in battle. I don't believe an absolute and crushing victory is what we humans need. I believe that the fight itself and the attitude of warriors are what we need."- Treize, Gundam Wing

In the fictional Wing series, Treize despised the use of Mobile Dolls and believed a war without Humans would sanction the worst crimes. In terms of warfare, I look at it the way Treize does. The only way we can avoid wars is by respecting Human lives.

 

I agree with you, for the most part, but I have to ask, do you consider ALL human life to be equal?

Because, I'll be honest here, and I understand if you want to call me names or something, but I consider the lives of my family and close friends more important to ME than the lives of people living halfway across the planet that I have never met.

And although I wouldn't want to kill for the fun of it, can we really leave terrorists and bad people alone, knowing that any time we target them they will hide behind civilian shields? All that does is allow them to continue their activities unobstructed.

 

Up until recently, warfare included wiping out large portions of the civilian population: Firestorms in Germany during WWII, also Nuclear bombs dropped over Japan, and even napalm and long-range artillery shelling villages during Nam.

But now that we can pin-point targets, it seems than 'any' civilian population kills are absolutely unforgiving and horrid! Altho our enemy, who started the war with us (both religious and anti-western secular), doesnt play by the rules of humanity, and hides among the civilian population. If we fight a truly humane war w/o expecting any civilian casualties, WE WILL LOSE THE WAR over time!

 

Knocking out civilians at weddings to achieve primary objectives is like adding salt to an injury and brings to mind Machiavelli, Pablo Escobar, and the 9-11 hijackers who who got a better kick from the "call 911" sarcasm. This will definitely not solve the problem of terrorism but enlarge it. Droning has made warfare impersonal.

 

Making warfare personal will put a larger number of Americans at risk. Are you okay with that?

 

Tell me how we are suppose to defeat the religious Jihadists who are hell bent on destroying any and all infidels, from Israel to the US. The ONLY way is to eliminate them all, and that is ongoing as there is a fresh crop of them being trained in the Madras' in places like our 'ally' Pakistan----this war is not going to just go away with a few defeats like Iraq.

Give me your plan of winning this war....the previous statement of 'avoiding wars by respecting Human lives' mentioned earlier wont do it..SORRY!! That' might work with civilized, secular folks but not with this enemy!

 

From your article

I highlighted the important word for you

 

Never allow a good headline go to waste. Why wait until the facts are known.

 

Last time I check SEALS and CIA agents are people too. Did you get confused by the video game you were playing?

 

You fight terrorism on principles.

 

Five were suspected of Al Qaeda involvement. They didn't even know, they only suspected. But hey, they're just ay-rabs so who cares, right? Kill 'em all and all that jazz...

 

I am a Liberal but not a Democrat. I agree with your position no matter how much my friends disagree.