Obamacare Is Succeeding!

The latest IRS report says the top 40% of income earners in the USa paid 106% of the total personal income tax collected. And the bottom 60% of income earners paid $00,00 personal income tax and received 6% of what was colected from the top 40% in EITC checks.

FYI 40% of income earners is only 54.4 million people paying ALL our personal income tax and the remaining 262.6 million people not only living off the 40% but taking OUT tax dollars the 40% paid IN.

Source: IRS.gov.

The prior years showed 49% paying ALL income tax. Then 51% paying all income tax. All the way back to when the top tax rate was 90% and then the rich paid only 20% of the total tax. THAT was "fair share."

 

Conservatives have always known and realized that we are supporting the poor, the handicapped and the parasites. All obamascam does is cause even more waste and increase our expense while a NET of FEWER people will be insured. And the people that went to ER's as their regular doctor? They will continue to use the ER as their family doctor, and they will use whatever of the many dozen names they use for everything and will always claim "CHEST PAINS," if any ER tries to turn them away.

 

If YOU had had the good sense and wisdom to BUY in 2008. You would be one of the 1% now.

A down market is always the best buying opportunity. Much safer than buying in a hot market

The oldest rule of the market will always apply.,,,,,,,,,Buy low, sell high.


You seem to be recommending buy high, sell low.

 

Buy with what? All the money one would have lost prior to? You have a very skewed view of the real world. I know people who lost everything. And you want those same people to buy more. Again, with what?

 

I'm aware that you'd like the only thing more ludicrous than obamascam. LaLa Liberal land is determined to follow the EU example. Where Greece, Portugal, Spain, Italy, and Ireland are bankrupt. Where every nation has a debt to GDP ratio 2 to 25 times worse than the USA and the EU is now completely dependent on the Central bank which is propped up by GERMANY alone. And we know from history how tolerant of weak neighbors Germany has always been.

And if you would do your research here,

http://www.oecd.org/health/

You would find that virtually ALL single payer nations, pay MORE of their household income, out of pocket for health care than the USA citizens did before obamascam.

And the OECD is a LEFT leaning site.

The only problems liberals have is truth and reality.

And obamascam has low ratings because you wanted a single payer system? Does that same EXCUSE apply to his equally low overall rating? And his low economy rating? And his low Immigration rating?

The nation has been living with a constant stream of liberal excuses for obobo, the incompetent, would be, clown king since 01/20/2009. An intelligent person would think that liberals by now are as tired of making the obobo excuses as the WORLD is tired of hearing them.

 

I have no problem with that, as long as republicans don't mind.

 

And it was an issue used by right wingers during the Teri Schiavo case which they have suddenly forgotten.

 

Bankrupt? According to Bush-Cheney deficits don't matter - when a Republican is in the White House. Therefore, they shouldn't matter today. If you right wingers were consistent in your principles you would agree 100%.

 

Now they have better coverage.

And when did you delusional right wingers suddenly become so anti-Wall Street?

 

Hate to burst your bubble:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-dorlester/guaranteed-health-care-in_b_280528.html

Article 31 of the Iraqi Constitution, drafted by your right-wing Bushies in 2005 and ratified by the Iraqi people, includes state-guaranteed (single payer) healthcare for life for every Iraqi citizen.

Article 31 reads:

"First: Every citizen has the right to health care. The State shall maintain public health and provide the means of prevention and treatment by building different types of hospitals and health institutions.



You may explore this further if you wish.

 

She?

Really - do you have to descend to such a level??

What about you - a she or an it? Hmmm ??????

You have been defeated in this debate but do try to keep it civil. I know it's difficult but do try.

 

75% of the nation wants single payer.

http://pnhp.org/blog/2009/12/09/two-thirds-support-3/

And you can prove this?

ALL single payer nations, pay MORE of their household income, out of pocket for health care than the USA citizens did before obamascam.

I did a lil looking, and you are blowing smoke.................
Canadian health care expenditures work out to just shy of $6,000 per capita per year, compared to the top-ranked U.S. with $8,233. http://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/112713/drawbacks-singlepayer-healthcare.asp

In 2011, France spent 11.6% of GDP on health care, or US$4,086 per capita,[2] a figure much higher than the average spent by countries in Europe but less than in the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_France

 

The delusional right wingers have been repeatedly challenged to PROVE that this harms liberty but none ever bother to try to answer the challenge. Obviously it is because their lies are totally baseless. Otherwise, Europe, Japan, Canada, and Israel would have lost their "liberty" a LONG time ago.

 

He keeps walking into it. I just don't get it. His insatiable appetite for the hate of Obamascam, as he calls it, drives him from a decent debate. It's amazing how so few didn't know much of anything about Obamacare, and yet, still in its infancy getting off the ground, some of these cats all of a sudden know so much. Interesting!

 

Well they know Obama is black, and that can't be good, so lash out with any BS to smear him. I think we should run the blackest skinned African American female lesbian for president we can find, so I can watch Boehner & Rove chit their pants when she is elected!! lol

 

Actually they pay less than we do for more coverage.

 

Iraq is full of paper promises.

 

No they don't. Not when you include taxes and the fact that waits for CT scans and MRI's are frequently double and triple or worse what they are here.

Not when you factor in that elective surgeries like hip replacements, take three times as long to get performed. And in most of Europe once you hit retirement age you will slowly find that more and more of your access to medicine lost. eventually the only cure they'll offer you has about the same curative power as a .45 caliber bullet to the brain.

 

About that last sentence; it sort of reminds me about the Left's response when Palin mentioned death panels:

"There are no death panels and never will be any you despicable *itch!"

Then when someone got around to pointing out that Obama appointed a Death Panel advocate to overseeing the implementation of one aspect of ObamaCare AND that California was figuring out how best to use the death panel concept, the leftwing response was:

"You rightwing troglodytes just don't understand the nature of a cost effective health care system nor the concept of omelets and eggs! Oh, and old people suck because they are a drain on the economy!"

Nice!

 

Nope. They pay less for more. We pay more for less. And we're ranked near the bottom of industrialized countries when it comes to health care.

 

Lol, you guys are still talking about "death panels"? And you wonder why nobody takes republicans seriously any more.

 

They don't get more of any thing. They get less and that is increasingly true as they age. We are ranked near the bottom not because we have worse care but because we don't do it their way. Patients here experinece better out comes after treatment than anywhere in the Eurozone. You get Cancer you come to the US becase your liklihood of surviving it are far better in the US than they are anywhere in Europe. Please expalin to me how ambulance stacking as the unintended consequence of insisting that the energency rooms see patients within 6 hours (average time in the US is four) is a good thing.

 

Lets all laff at the people posting on healthcare.gov. how funny is this?

"What a colossal screw up this has been. After 2 months of pressing on to finally get coverage, you herd us to a sea of nothingness of companies and plans that will never activate because companies like BCBS have no intention of honoring. You have put me in healthcare hell and limbo while I wait for a company that keeps telling us we are working on your issue or have resolved your issue.. Your healthcare.gov hotline is a joke and they tell you they will escalate but no one ever calls you back. You have allowed companies to take our money and not provide any service which is criminal. I was one the biggest proponent of this legislation but now I see it as one big SCAM. You have put my health and thousands of others in jeopardy.Like(*)·(*)10(*)·(*)Reply(*)·(*)Yesterday at 6:08am"

https://m.facebook.com/Healthcare.g...://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php&_rdr

Hilarious, huh?

 

You mean all those millions upon millions of Obama voters who now think that YOUR president is stink on a stick? You mean those specific people who are not taking Republicans seriously anymore? You mean they still don't BELIEVE the Republicans who have been right about ObamaCare from day one and warned all of those FORMER and increasingly angry at this president Obama voters? Just checking.

 

Hate to be he one to tell you this, but he's your president too. What does this have to do with right wing morons believing in death panels?

I mean most of America is not taking them seriously anymore.

But republicans haven't been right

Glad I could clear all that up for you.

What does any of this have to do with right wing morons believing in death panels?